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manas28 · 2008-05-04 12:22:06

Hi guys I have two blog at blogspot.Now I am starting to make on a wordpress.I have seen wordpress has an offer for domain which costs $15 per year.I was going to accept this but suddenly found some problem with paypal.I have an account with paypal.I am a sincere client too for them but I dont have any credit or debit card to add at paypal.When to subcribe wordpress domain offer paypal are asking me to add a card.This is my problem.Could you please help me how to pay for this domain in other way (Directly from paypal ?).

My second query is is this domain could help me? Should it be enough for own domain blog?I dont have any idea about own server ? Are own domain be enough?
Please advice me.Thanks.

laurie_m · 2008-05-04 14:52:25

Yes Manas. Your own domain will be fine.

Be sure to get a hosting package that allows for unlimited MySQL databases. You need a MySQL database for each blog.

A debit card is a great asset. I recommend you get one. A paypal account is great, also.

Regards,
Laurie.

ColoEagle · 2008-05-04 17:59:46

You can get around the PayPal requirement to have backup funding if you have a way to transfer money into your PP account. I have two PP accounts, one with backup funding and the other without. I just transfer money over to the account without backup when I know I will be using this account.

manas28 · 2008-05-05 08:05:01

laurie_m wrote:
Yes Manas. Your own domain will be fine.

Be sure to get a hosting package that allows for unlimited MySQL databases. You need a MySQL database for each blog.

A debit card is a great asset. I recommend you get one. A paypal account is great, also.

Regards,
Laurie.

Hi dear thanks for advice.But what is MySQL datbase ? Please tell me some thing about it.Thanks.

laurie_m · 2008-05-05 16:57:40

Well, G'day Manas.

I got your PM but best to try and answer you questions in the forum, I think. That way, not only is it there for others to learn, but more importantly, others can take it up and give a fuller answer.

Now, you haven't told us much about what you're trying to do but from your other posts and looking around your blog and following your trail around the net I think I have a bit of an Idea. Only guessing though.

I think that you are trying to get away from the poor showing in Google that results from the bad neighborhoods that you've been associating with. By bad neighborhoods, I mean blogs that deal in links, which is just what you have been doing. That is: you seem to be part of a circle of link farms.

I doubt that there is any future in your business model, except if you can charge your clients far more that the links are worth and get links to your own blog for free.

I doubt that the links that you sell will be worth anything to your clients and I don't know how you'll get valuable inbound links to your blog without paying big money or else putting in some considerable effort.

Reprint article writing to get backlinks is hardly an option for you. Backlinks, to be of value, must be from relevant sites.

Relevancy and value of the site linking to you are among the main considerations in any linking scheme. That's why your business model is questionable and why the backlinks that you've been getting don't help you.

So I doubt that a fresh start will help. It's your business model that needs to change. Google is gunning for linking schemes that try to artificially manipulate search results, so I'm guessing that they've caught up with those providing your backlinks. In doing so they've also caught up with those that you provide backlinks to.

Consider this: I have over 1,200 posts on SR with four backlinks over two domains, in each post. That gives me about 5,000 backlinks. They are without SEO value to me because of the lack of relevancy between SR and my sites.

That's pretty tough, I know. Hope you take it constructively and build on it.

Now, Manas, to set up a couple of blogs independent of a free host such as Blogger, you need a domain and a hosting package.

I think I'm right in saying that if you look around you should be able to get a domain for around US$10 per year. Not sure about that, but it's not such a big difference, anyway.

You should be able to get basic hosting for about US$5 a month but this will probably allow only one MySQL database. For about US$10 a month you'll get up to 10 MySQL databases or unlimited MySQL databases.

A MySQL database is the guts of the blog. You need a MySQL database for each blog that you wish to create.

I don't know if free blogs allow you to charge for backlinks.

Whether you use a free blog or set up your own domain and hosting, you need to develop a blog around a related set of themes and keep the inbound and outbound links to that theme. You can give links by writing about people's websites or by allowing them to make comments on your articles. You could even allow people to guest write on your blog, for a fee. On topic, of course.

Consider developing say twenty or one hundred blogs, each dealing with a separate subject. You'll need this number of blogs to make money selling links. And you need to write your own article in each blog, every day.

Comment links need to be dofollow links to be of value. You'll need your own hosting in order to get into the guts of the php and edit the file to change the nofollow to dofollow. And you'll need to learn a bit of php and ftp. A bit more in it than in simply typing something in a free blog.

And, of course, you'll be swamped with comment spam and will need to deal with it on a daily basis.

Now Manas, this may not be what you wanted to hear and it doesn't give the full picture, but I hope it will give you something to work with.

First thing for you is a viable business model.

Regards,
Laurie.

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matte · 2008-05-05 23:27:58

or you could go with a good web host that offers the SQL and one-click wordpress installation - there are some very good ones around at low prices if you know where to look \|/

laurie_m · 2008-05-06 01:28:00

Ah, yes, Manus!

Matte has touched on something that I should have described thoroughly, so here goes:

I have two domains. One is hosted with a small package, allowing only one MySQL database and so only one blog.

The other is on a larger hosting package, allowing unlimited MySQL databases. I have a dozen or more blogs on that hosting package.

There's one each for my daughter, grandson and granddaughter, a couple that I keep to experiment with, plus the good ones that I regularly maintain or else that are complete as they stand.

One of the sites is actually two WP (WordPress) blogs skinned alike and linked together, giving me two searchable databases.

Another of my sites is currently two blogs joined in the same way as above but I hope to eventually have seven blogs making up the one website.

There would surely be a better way to do this. The point is that it can be done with WP on a hosting package that allows unlimited MySQL databases.

The Web Host that I use provides domains at US$10.95 per year, and hosting packages as described above at US$4.95 and US$9.95 per month respectively. I think that's about the going rate, but there are many other good hosting companies around if you care to check them out.

Some say that it's not a good idea to get your domain and hosting from the same supplier, but I don't worry about that.

My host provides a control panel where I can easily add a new blog when ever I wish. Just fill in a few boxes and the installation is all done for me. No extra charges beside the domain and hosting.

There's a heap of extra things that I can easily download. Won't go into them now. Most good hosts would have similar things to download for free, with your hosting package.

Best wishes with it,
Laurie.

manas28 · 2008-05-06 13:18:43

Thanks matte for your valuable advice.I can only appreciate your task,thanks again.
Hi laurie
for your valuable too and brief advice.I can now say some litterate about domain and hosting.Thanks for your domain site info .I would visit there.Also I have checked wordpress what they have for me,they have plenty more options to choose.
Now my query is what c-panel (= control pannel obcourse ?) .Actually I was reading a post about how to add new theme into wordpress by a blogger.He have nice and brief topics.But all the things related to c-panel.I want to add new theme outside of wordpress own available theme.But I cant get any options to add it.Is it require a c-panel to add new theme.Now I can say without hosting and own domain I couldnt get c-panel.Is it right? That means I cant add new theme without c-panel? Wordpress have an option to upgrade my blogs,then this mean without upgrade I cant add new theme or even a new file/folder/wideget.Is it right ? Then advice me what to do?
Thanks.

laurie_m · 2008-05-06 14:29:22

G'day again Manas.

I'm really not clear about what you wish to do, so I'm guessing a good bit.

I think you want to transfer your Blogspot blog to a WordPress platform. I don't know if you can do this but I'd be very surprised to find that you can.

Without going into all the possibilities, my advice to you is to stay with Bolgspot.

If you want to go to WP, there are two main options:

1) Get a free WP blog. This may simply be an equivalent to what you now have with Blogspot. Not sure about that. You'll need to research it yourself at the WP site.

2) Purchase your own domain and hosting, then install a WP blog. This will give you all the freedom that you could possibly want, but will involve a lot of learning in several fields in order to make it more than your current Blogspot blog.

As I understand it, either of these options will mean leaving all your present Blogspot content behind and starting from scratch.

Regards,
Laurie.

manas28 · 2008-05-07 05:04:09

laurie_m wrote:
G'day again Manas.

I'm really not clear about what you wish to do, so I'm guessing a good bit.

I think you want to transfer your Blogspot blog to a WordPress platform. I don't know if you can do this but I'd be very surprised to find that you can.

Without going into all the possibilities, my advice to you is to stay with Bolgspot.

If you want to go to WP, there are two main options:

1) Get a free WP blog. This may simply be an equivalent to what you now have with Blogspot. Not sure about that. You'll need to research it yourself at the WP site.

2) Purchase your own domain and hosting, then install a WP blog. This will give you all the freedom that you could possibly want, but will involve a lot of learning in several fields in order to make it more than your current Blogspot blog.

As I understand it, either of these options will mean leaving all your present Blogspot content behind and starting from scratch.
Hey laurie not at all.I am not swithching my blogspot blog to WP.I have created a new blog in wp which I wants to install in my own domain.Please look at my query again " Now my query is what c-panel (= control pannel obcourse ?) .Actually I was reading a post about how to add new theme into wordpress by a blogger.He have nice and brief topics.But all the things related to c-panel.I want to add new theme outside of wordpress own available theme.But I cant get any options to add it.Is it require a c-panel to add new theme.Now I can say without hosting and own domain I couldnt get c-panel.Is it right? That means I cant add new theme without c-panel? Wordpress have an option to upgrade my blogs,then this mean without upgrade I cant add new theme or even a new file/folder/wideget.Is it right ? Then advice me what to do?
Thanks. "
Just answer my query,can I made this without purchasing a domain?
Regards,
Laurie.

laurie_m · 2008-05-07 05:39:33

Well Manas, if that doesn't answer your query, then I don't know what it is that you want to do or want to know.

Could you please explain better.

Blogspot has got nothing to do with WordPress, cpanel, your own domain or your own hosting package. You can't use a WordPress theme on Blogspot. I've explained that already. Is that your question?

If so, you've got two options"

1) Stick with your free blog with Blogspot.

2) Get a domain and hosting package and install WordPress. If you go this way, it will cost you money and you'll loose all your current content.

The choice is yours.

But if that's not your question, then you'll need to make it clear just what you need to know.

Best wishes,
Laurie.

manas28 · 2008-05-07 12:59:38

laurie_m wrote:
Well Manas, if that doesn't answer your query, then I don't know what it is that you want to do or want to know.

Could you please explain better.

Blogspot has got nothing to do with WordPress, cpanel, your own domain or your own hosting package. You can't use a WordPress theme on Blogspot. I've explained that already. Is that your question?

If so, you've got two options"

1) Stick with your free blog with Blogspot.

2) Get a domain and hosting package and install WordPress. If you go this way, it will cost you money and you'll loose all your current content.

The choice is yours.

But if that's not your question, then you'll need to make it clear just what you need to know.

Best wishes,
Laurie.

Perhaps I am mis-guiding you again.I will stick with my blogspot blog.I dont want or wish to change any in it.My question is I have created a new blog which is http://shoponlinemoney.wordpress.com/ .I want some advice for it.Did you get me rightly? I want to add a new theme except from wordpress gallery theme which is available for free wordpres blogger.Right ? How can I add this? Please go to my wordpres site,you can see a wordpres theme (in red colour),I just want to change it.Wordpress has some theme gallery,but I want to add a new theme outside from wordpres gallery.I think you can now catch my query.
I know that wordpres theme couldnt be added into blogspot,and c-panel is not related to blogspot.Please forget my blogspot blog.I want to change my wordpres theme only.

laurie_m · 2008-05-07 13:43:55

OK Manas. Now we're getting somewhere.

I don't know the answer to your question because I don't use the free WP blog. I would think that you'd have a fairly restricted ability to configure it, just as you have with Blogspot. You'll need to work within the system for the free WP blog.

I suggest that you go to the bottom of your upload page and look for a link that says Documentation or Help. There may even be a link to a Free WP forum.

You could also try signing up with BlogCatalog and put your question in the discussions section.

Regards,
Laurie.

Northie · 2008-05-08 03:36:47

In case you didn't know already, you need 2 things to start off with

A domain name
A web server

All the domain name does is to point people to your webserver when they type in the domain name

Your webserver is just a computer connected to the internet (both the computer and connection are highly optimised for serving web pages)

MySQL is a database that will be on your webserver, all the content for your blog is stored in the database. Software (ie wordpress) pulls the content from the database and serves it as a web page. So all you really need to know is how to set up mysql for wordpress - there will be millions of tutorials on the web about this, as well as tutorials from the web server provider (web host) and instructions from wordpress

You could install something like wamp or xampp on your own computer first, this would allow you to trial wordpress on your own computer without having to pay for a web server until you're sure you know what you're doing (this is known as testing locally)

As for how much to pay......

A domain name shouldn't cost more that $7/year (godaddy.com, name.com)
Web servers can cost anything from 0 upwards. I have yet to find a reasonably priced server that provides unlimited mysql databases.

I am surprised that you need one database per blog, i was under the impression you could use the same database for each blog, but the tables for each blog have a unique prefix, eg

blog1_tableA
blog1_tableB
blog2_tableA
blog2_tableB

etc etc

Although I'm not 100% sure about this as i don't use WP very much

manas28 · 2008-05-08 13:26:16

Thanks Northie for your advice.
I have brought a domain for me and obcourse for my new wordpress blog.Now the problem is how to add this domain into the wordpress.I find some answer from forums,that go to add domain--put your domain name--add this--I should get a page of this domain,besides a link of put your blog here.
But I didnt get those.Actually I couldnt find any option to add my domain.When to click to add domain its brings the buy credit form.
Hey please help somebody.Thanks.

How to add my domain into wordpress?

laurie_m · 2008-05-08 14:59:40

G'day Manas.

I remember how hard it was when I was starting out. Not understanding the meaning of the terms makes it very hard to follow the advice given, unless it is explained in absolute detail. Once again you haven't told us what you want so I can only guess. But here's my best try:

I've never used a fee Blogspot blog or a free WordPress blog so I'm guessing a bit. I have a free Yahoo blog so I suppose the others work along the same lines.

When you get a free blog, they give you a free, online editor which includes a free uploader.

You also get a free subdomain of the host's domain.

Your URL, http://shoponlinemoney.wordpress.com/ contains your subdomain.

wordpress.com is the WordPress domain and shoponlinemoney is the subdomain that they've given you.

In the same way, http://kasakk.blogspot.com is the URL for your other blog. blogspot.com is Blogspot's domain and kasakk is the subdomain that they've given you.

Along with the subdomain that you get with your free blog, you get a free hosting package. That's some space on the Blogspot or WordPress server that Northie was talking about.

With these free blogs, you have limited ability to make changes to the appearance of the blog. You can't make the sort of changes that you can if you have your own hosting package.

You can't use your own domain on a free blog. You can't do what you are trying to do.

Now, you can get free hosting with cpanel that will allow you to download and install WordPress. You can use your domain with this. Or else buy your own hosting package.

There was a thread on the forum some weeks ago, about free web hosting. You should do your own research into this by using the SR search box.

With a blog that is hosted on your own web space, free or paid, you can download a different WordPress theme. As well as paid themes, you can get free ones.

But you'll need to download a free FTP client and install it on your computer before you can upload the free theme to your web space. That means that you will need to learn about FTP. FTP stands for file transfer protocol. A FTP client is a programme to transfer your files to your host web space.

To take it a step further, you can make further alterations to the appearance and function of your blog by downloading the css and php files using FTP, edit them and upload the edited files. But you don't need to go this far.

So you see, Manas, there's a lot more to having the kind of blog that you want, than there is in simply having a free one. That's why I recommended in another post that you stick with the free one.

Best wishes with it,
Laurie.

Northie · 2008-05-08 16:37:48

"Adding a domain to wordpress" makes no sense

Step 1 - buy a domain (i think you've already done this)

Step 2 - get web hosting (one member of our forums has recommended http://www.hostmonster.com/)

Step 3 - install wordpress on your webserver (if using hostmonster (above) this will be very easy)

done

matte · 2008-05-08 18:26:18

from my experience in the hosting package, if you have CPanel, then you can easily add the wordpress blog through the Fantastico link.

Move your mind away from the wordpress.org one - you will find that most hosting companies have the ability to install the wordpress software through CPanel. It is still free.

This is easy to do and take only a few minutes to do.

The domain and the hosting/wordpress are distinct from each other as Northie has said.

Northie · 2008-05-09 02:01:17

offtopic

matte wrote:
from my experience in the hosting package, if you have CPanel, then you can easily add the wordpress blog through the Fantastico link.

Only if you have cPanel on the server

Other server control software includes things like plesk, webmin and other bespoke GUIs for administering your server

matte · 2008-05-09 02:33:09

as i said, in my experience AND we are talking hosting here, not running your own server..

I would imagine most hosting packages would include a admin panel that would include easy WP install - it is par for the course these days.

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