Check it out!

http://ebiquity.umbc.edu/blogger/2004/1 … e-heavens/

Maybe so... but the majority of converting customers use Internet Explorer. Alas place your beliefs in what you feel most comfortable with.

I use IE for 2 reasons:

1) i'm a glutton for punishment

2) most of my visitors use IE so like to as well

Personally, apart from everyone at my local bank calling me God (I even get Christmas cards and other ban correspondence addressed to God), I am weaning myself off MS products.

I use Firefox,
I use an alternative to MS Office called Compare office (I'll be posting a review of it on my blog today)
I have switched to Thunderbird email client (Though I do miss the Outlook calendar function and its address book is good - no plugins for Thunderbird that does the job nearly was well    )
On my next computer I am thinking of Linux or... (any suggestion on this are welcome)

I use IE 6 & 7 for testing purposes only

Having used firefox with web-dev toolbar and firebug for some time now I cannot see how anyone can develop websites without FF and FB



For anyone interested to know what firebig does and looks like, look at this

http://xeneco.co.uk/SR/SR-FB.png

this is a screen shot of me, half way through wring this post. I opened up firebug, clciked inspect and then hovered over the code button above the text area.

What can you see?

The element I'm hovering over is highlighted on the rendered page
You can see syntax-highlighted indented source code, with the element high lighted
On the right is all the CSS associated with the element, where it's been declared and if it's been over-written

This is just scratching the surface, but for all CSS and javascript/DOM bugs - you can find them, tweak them and get them perfect

Hi,
Got to ask ... Does firebug let you write  what you want and convert what you write to code?  If so , is it easy to learn to use .. and by easy i mean does it come with instuctions  that computor illiterate people can understand..
Jan.

trpjan wrote:

Hi,
Got to ask ... Does firebug let you write  what you want and convert what you write to code?  If so , is it easy to learn to use .. and by easy i mean does it come with instuctions  that computor illiterate people can understand..
Jan.

No

Firebug lets you see the DOM, and edit it (ie the raw HTML as the browser sees it) as well as being able to edit the CSS but is not a WYSIWYG editor and will not save the changes.

One can also use the console in firebug to write javascript in for testing / debugging purposes

If you don't understand the DOM then there's not much point in getting firebug.........at best it'll help you learn about the DOM

Firebug is released as a plugin for firefox and a small amount of documentation exists for medium to advanced users

I agree with Northie on this FF / FB are very useful for developing.  It's useful to see why css isn't doing what you expect it to do, as well as trying out new styles and immediately seeing their effects (without making permanent changes to your code until you're ready to).  It does require that you know some amount of code to start though.

I still haven't seen such a tool for IE, but then IE can't seem to get the CSS specifications right anyway.

That's awesome! Thanks for sharing the link. The images on that original link are gone but I found them on Wired's blog:

http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2008/04/f … go-sp.html 

What a great find!