#1 2008-03-12 03:49:31
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How to promote my website in yahoo and google ?
hi,
I am a Chinese girl, i want to promote our website in yahoo and google,but i don't know how to promote it well ! If i exchange link with other website ,is it very useful for our website ?
If so,how can i find who want to exchange link with our website? If you know how to promote our website in google or yahoo, or someone want to exchange link with us , could you please feel free to contact us ?
Thanks
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#2 2008-03-12 10:16:45
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Re: How to promote my website in yahoo and google ?
You need get inbound links from RELEVANT and QUALITY sites. Put out some articles, buy some ads space in popular shoe sites, create videos (maybe shoe buying tips for example), give away free shoes to bloggers and get them to write about them- these are just all ideas. Is there a local chamber of commerce or any type of organization like that you can join and ask them to put a link to you? You in your local directories? You in bigger directories (yahoo, msn, etc)? Put links in free classified, etc.
The thing is you site is an e-Commerce site- which doesn't provide much value to most people so the chances of other sites “organically” linking to you are slim. This means you have a steeper uphill link battle and need a serious link building campaign if you really want to start ranking well. get creative but forget the link exchanges and make sure you are getting links from quality, relevant sources.
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#3 2008-03-13 23:21:49
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Re: How to promote my website in yahoo and google ?
When getting good incoming links, PageRank starts to come into play. The sites with higher page ranks will bare a higher weight as an incoming link. You can have a million links and have a terrible rank, on the other hand have relatively few links and rank high.
When looking for good site to link to you, check their estimated PageRank using the Google toolbar. Also check there source code for "NOFOLLOW" in their anchor tags ( "a" tags). These are worthless for search engines rankings. For example, this site implements "NOFOLLOW" in there anchor tags.
Another factor is content. The more quality, original content your site has the higher it will rank.
If you have time to do this , don't hire an SEO company (most of them suck anyway).
You may need to do some PPC advertising to get good traffic to your site. Site-Reference has some good resources on this sort of thing I think.
Good Luck.
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#4 2008-03-14 19:19:15
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Re: How to promote my website in yahoo and google ?
Thank you!
But you do you think the yahoo, google,msn blogger is better for this, i am just interested in some free meathod, you know i have spent some money,but not very good . So now i prefer to the free method now .
I really hope you could give me some more advice about this .
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#5 2008-03-14 20:57:51
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Re: How to promote my website in yahoo and google ?
You need to optimize your content for the keyword you want. Start with your On-page optimization. The more relative and useful content your site contains the better ranking you will have. To find good keywords I would look at your competition and see what they have. Check out http://www.google.com/trends to see what are common trends.
The other factor is your off-page stuff or in other words incoming links. Just find good, quality sites to link to you.
Another great traffic tool that I have recently been using is online video. Check out a site called http://www.tubemogul.com/. This is a great tool for getting promotional videos out on the web. I just started using it and have already got quite a few new vistors.
Another thing you should look into is to make sure you are able to convert visitors to customers. I like to use Google Analytics because it is pretty indepth and it is free.There I can analyze the time on visitors spend on each page and what the bounce rate is. I then use thoughs stats to help tweek mysite.
I enjoy the free method as well. Good Luck.
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#6 2008-03-15 06:20:55
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Re: How to promote my website in yahoo and google ?
First complete your on page optimization including meta tags, content optimization, search engine friendly designing then go ahead with off page thing. You should include directory submission, article posting, forum posting, business listing, press release submission, social bookmarking and so on. Link exchange is very traditional method so try web 2.0 tools to get search engine ranking very sooner.
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#7 2008-03-15 06:43:48
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Re: How to promote my website in yahoo and google ?
yes i agree with Naman, you must complete your onpage thing first then go with offpage optimization work. Article submission is really a good technique to get better one way links from high PR sites.
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#8 2008-03-18 21:04:25
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Re: How to promote my website in yahoo and google ?
OK, i will post some more articles , And do what you tell to me . I really hope i could promote my website well.
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#9 2008-03-19 09:30:33
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Re: How to promote my website in yahoo and google ?
elevatingshoes wrote:
Thank you!
But you do you think the yahoo, google,msn blogger is better for this, i am just interested in some free meathod, you know i have spent some money,but not very good . So now i prefer to the free method now .
I really hope you could give me some more advice about this .
You know... I hate to say it, but this is surely the NUMBER ONE cause of internet business failure (or offline even); Under Funded
The 'free method' doesn't exist. You are talking about 'do it yourself' not FREE. Unless of course you do not value yourself nor your time. Furthermore, when you have a development/marketing budget of $0 - your competitors only need a marginal budget to ensure dominance. I have seen few niches (that make money) where a budget of $0 would do much of anything but waste some of your time.
Let's look at some of the rest shall we peeps?
On PageRank
When getting good incoming links, PageRank starts to come into play. The sites with higher page ranks will bare a higher weight as an incoming link. You can have a million links and have a terrible rank, on the other hand have relatively few links and rank high.
In the present day, Google is known to adjust the public PR which we all know from the ToolBar - this means it is nt a trusted metric for actual internal PageRank calculations, it is not a sound way to evaluate links. It takes a deeper understanding of the PageRank technology and the ability to 'view' a site's link profile to understand the potential value of a given backlink. The TBPR is not a viable metric for research purposes.
Time and historical factors of a link also come into play. For examples read up on a recent Google patent (reRelease); Information Retrieval Based on Historical Data
Valuating links is not at all as 'simple' as those not 'skilled in the art' know it to be.
To find good keywords I would look at your competition and see what they have. Check out http://www.google.com/trends to see what are common trends.
Not really where I would start. BUT it is important to note that KW/Phras the research is likely the most important aspect of SEO ...IMHO.... for more read up on; Keyword - Phrase research and targeting or track down some past posts
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The other factor is your off-page stuff or in other words incoming links. Just find good, quality sites to link to you.
Sure...let's do some basics
Link Profiles
Link Building Ideas
Link Bait tactics
Onwards
Another great traffic tool that I have recently been using is online video. Check out a site called http://www.tubemogul.com/. This is a great tool for getting promotional videos out on the web. I just started using it and have already got quite a few new vistors.
First understand the basics of Social Media Marketing- it is VERY important to understand the value of SMM and how to run/create a program. Don't simply approach social media marketing willy nilly.... it is a marketing method and as such needs valuations.
First complete your on page optimization including meta tags, content optimization, search engine friendly designing then go ahead with off page thing.
Actually unless you are working link bait (viral) there is no reason some rudminetary link building can't be run in concert with onsite efforts...Directories are a great example as the links (publication) trickle in over time...
You should include directory submission, article posting, forum posting, business listing, press release submission, social bookmarking and so on. Link exchange is very traditional method so try web 2.0 tools to get search engine ranking very sooner.
hmmmmm... sure those are some basic ideas (see above link building articles) - but once more, social media marketing isn't something to 'just do' - that is basically spamming social media/networks - learn about the discipline because much like SEO - just 'trying' won't cut the mustard.
Article submission is really a good technique to get better one way links from high PR sites.
To be honest these will be about as valuable as reciprocal links pretty soon (or directory devaluations) - only the most authoritative locales will be worth much IMO
And there you have it.... plenty to think about....
OK, i will post some more articles , And do what you tell to me . I really hope i could promote my website well.
Learn first... don't set off on a course blindly (article marketing) without understanding the goals and percieved value of the excercise. How will you establish a successfull campaign? What is a failure? Develop a program and benchmarks... or it is merely playing darts in the dark
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#10 2008-03-19 09:35:13
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Re: How to promote my website in yahoo and google ?

Timous wrote:
If you have time to do this , don't hire an SEO company (most of them suck anyway).
Oh... and it is heart warming to see the respect you have for an industry that you seemingly work in (offer services) - every industry has a dirth of poor providers.... you do not do yourself, the industry, hard working SEOs and future - up and coming - SEOs any favors with such statements.
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#11 2008-04-11 05:57:13
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Re: How to promote my website in yahoo and google ?
TheGypsy wrote:
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Timous wrote:
If you have time to do this , don't hire an SEO company (most of them suck anyway).
Oh... and it is heart warming to see the respect you have for an industry that you seemingly work in (offer services) - every industry has a dirth of poor providers.... you do not do yourself, the industry, hard working SEOs and future - up and coming - SEOs any favors with such statements.
Just my thoughts at least
As I read down your reply I was waiting for this. It did deserve a post on its own. Talk about waving a red flag.
From my experience this forum was built by and visitied by SEO's who share their time. The problem with the original post was (most of them suck anyway) should have read (some are too inexperienced anyway). To me that sounds better.
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#12 2008-04-11 10:31:08
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Re: How to promote my website in yahoo and google ?
yeah, I agree.... and I have no problem with 'some of them suck' even.... there are shady and inexperienced providers in most markets. This is not an SEO centric issue and folks (often young SEOs) that put down the entire industry because of a handful of loogans are simply ill-advised.
It is funny though, often when folks get burnt it is because they thought they could succeed on the cheap. It stands to reason that when all things are considered equal, top rankings for any meaningful terms is going to cost. Marketing is all about what you have to spend and I wouldn't buy the BS about the internet being the 'great leveler' - it is to a certain extent, but much like offline marketing, he with the biggest budget gets the most attention (reach)...
This is the same with web design as most folks I talk to that got burned were because they took the cheapest option - this rarely works for any service product... U get whatcha pay for
The cheap guy likely hasn't the experience to properly plan and price an SEO campaign...
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#13 2008-05-07 13:38:00
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Re: How to promote my website in yahoo and google ?
If your site is new, it will take some time before you can see some rankings on the web, especially in Google. But you can see rankings in Yahoo and Live in shorter time.
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#14 2008-05-08 10:47:20
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Re: How to promote my website in yahoo and google ?
And then you get some of the best advice on the web:
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If your site is new, it will take some time before you can see some rankings on the web, especially in Google. But you can see rankings in Yahoo and Live in shorter time.
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I just wanted to say that the only comment that was worth reading was the comment by TheGypsy. The whole reason behind forums is to have references. It's pointless telling some that "THE BEST WAY TO GET INBOUND LINKS FREE OF CHARGE IS TO UMMM GET LISTED ON DIRECTORIES YADYADADADAD" I can read that on any damn forum.
TheGypsy takes commenting and reading this forum to a new level. Just wanted to say that referring to other articles and other sites instead of yabbering for the sake of yabbering (sorry I know but I need to get this across
) is pointless and will make this forum pointless.
And as for genius who says SEO's don't know how to SEO, let me guess, you do your own SEO? so you think it's pointless paying for it! How profitable is your site?
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