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#1 2008-01-25 22:11:32

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Novice imput.

Just a thought for all to ponder..
I had my site reviewed and  have had a lot of good solid imformation passed on and am following up on most of it.
The thing is anyone can post a reply and it is forgotten that not everyone knows what they are talking about from a true been there done that knowlegable basis.
From my own situation  i followed up on some information posted and did some changes on my web page.Being a novice myself i wasnt confident   in my own choices also wasnt sure about the changes i had made.
lucky enough a member reminded me that  not all comments are made by qualified people  and  my original work  was better ..
So  maybe it would be an idea to remind  all us newbie  web builders  that not everything  that is written  is the way it is suppose to be. Not all information can be gauranteed to be qualified information.
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#2 2008-01-26 00:40:32

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Re: Novice imput.

ah, of course everything that is provided on forums such as this one are there for you to pick and choose from. That's why it's free!

In terms of other novices having input, that is important as well - everyone sees things differently so they may look at your site from a completely different perspective.

As with it all read it - make of it what you will, and use what seems right to you.

One important aspect, which Laurie is normally quick to point out (but which may not be possible with your site builder program) is to always make a backup copy of pages before making changes. That way if iy screws up totally, not all is lost!

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#3 2008-01-26 00:59:05

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Re: Novice imput.

Welcome to the real world of the internet, Jan. Or is it the internet of the real world? Dunno!

Not all information can be gauranteed to be qualified information.

True! True!

Just a thought for all to ponder.

Yes! We've often pondered it.

It's pretty much how it is on forums, so it seems to me. The net has the potential to be a dangerous place which is a step beyond the confusion you've described. With good reason we don't let our children loose, unsupervised, on the net.

Given time, you'll develop a gut feeling for whether or not advice on a web building forum has the ring of truth.

One thing to keep in mind is that when you're getting something for nothing, that's generally just what you're getting. But here on SR it's different. For free you might get advice that is worth what it cost or you may get a site review or other assistance that would cost you $50 to $100, possibly more, from a commercial provider.

Not bad, huh? All you need to do is ask and sort out the rubbish from the good stuff. Lots of good people out there on the web.

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#4 2008-01-26 02:09:21

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Re: Novice imput.

Yes i guess deciding what is valid advice is all part and parcel of learning.. and Matt ,  backing up my website is something that has passed through my mind at different times ..  and i dont know how.  So lol, be prepare to come up with some thoughts on the subject  in the near future lol.
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#5 2008-01-26 09:56:30

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Re: Novice imput.

I agree... Since it's 'free', then you gotta take some things with a grain of salt. But spend enough time in any given forum and you'll slowly learn who's-who, and what's-what.

As far as a 'community' is concerned, I've been around many other site-helper type forums, and by far.... SR has the best Guru to Newb ratio. (dare I mention DP... Bwahahahahahhahah).

It's a roll of the dice, no matter where you go.... but I'd rather get advice, where the odds are in my favor. blinka

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#6 2008-01-26 12:12:57

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Re: Novice imput.

trpjan wrote:

Yes i guess deciding what is valid advice is all part and parcel of learning

MrStitch wrote:

I agree... Since it's 'free', then you gotta take some things with a grain of salt. But spend enough time in any given forum and you'll slowly learn who's-who, and what's-what.

Sorta off topic, but when I originally suggested the "Thank You" feature we all love to the higher-ups, that was the exact reason - To help (notice I say help, just because someone has more than 1 or 2 thank you's doesn't always mean they're right, and vice versa) newbies can get a better indication of who's been around and probably knows their stuff.

But, that also doesn't mean members with only one or two Thanks You's are always incorrect. I've seen some good advice from people who just don't come around all that often, so in turn don't get as many thank you's as they could.

It's not a perfect system, but I've not heard (seen?) any negative responses to it. I'm sure it helps those to decide whose advice to take and whose to not, or at least guide them in the right direction glad


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#7 2008-02-04 13:55:02

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Re: Novice imput.

IMHO (and only humble, because of my lack of knowledge-- give me knowledge and I start getting cocky blinka ), some of us, who have been around for a while, STILL cannot be considered experts in many things. Fortunately, usually when giving advice to new folks, I do tend to tell where my "expertise" comes in, which usually is merely as someone who uses the Internet for a wild cross section of topics, but, on occasion, as a writer, and someone with marketing abilities.

Then again, I gage advice, even advice given to others, by getting to know advice givers. In most cases you can tell how good the advice is, by how good the website(s) the advice giver has. (There are two guys, one name escapes me, at the moment, who have no websites or one so unconnected to his business the blog doesn't really work for this purpose, generally disagree with almost everyone else, BUT are still worth considering their advice.) Along with that, while snooping around reading threads, I quickly get to know who's who. The only problem I have now, is remembering who's who, sometimes. rodna

But, then again, even if the advice given is good, sometimes I can't figure out how to implement it and keep the concept I have for my sites. Ultimately, I know who my site is for, and must decide for myself, what's the best place/way of finding those particular beings. Hard to figure out as a noob, but most folks have always known who they want their audience to be, we just need advice on how to get the right people to see ours. Jan, I think you're already on your way to figuring out which advice is good, which isn't, and which can't be used easily on your site.

The only other hard part to figure out is who to give advice to and who to skip wasting time. I'll teach you how to do that, as soon as I figure it out. If you beat me to that lesson, please post your findings. I'm not the only one, who hasn't figured that out yet. blinka

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#8 2008-02-04 22:02:23

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Re: Novice imput.

Lol  Yes lot of things to learn besides  how to build a website.
I guess if you  cant decide whats good or bad  see what the majority  have to say. 
From what ive read  in this forum there is plenty of free advice and 9 times out of 10 if something isnt right someone will come up and give another point of view   and then someone else will either agree or disagree.
I dont pretend to understand  all thats said but i find  if something is revelent to my needs i can take away bits of information and figure it out either by asking more questions or  researching and trying to find  the answers.
I dont expect anyone to build my website for me and its been somewhat frustrating at times figuring  things out but  i have acomplished a great deal from the time i set out  to build  with no knowledge at all, to where i am with it today.
Lol i can look back  and  think ,  it would have been a little easier at times if id found this forum earlier.
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#9 2008-02-05 11:54:52

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Re: Novice imput.

You also need to consider who your website audience is

A lot of people here are webmasters so you’re getting feedback form the perspective of webmasters…

However is your site targeting webmasters? Who are the people you want to attract to your site?

Whoever they are- ideally those are the people  you’d love to get to review your site ideally

They are the ones you have to please and get to perform your desired action- not a bunch of webmasters ;-)

So yea- while it’s great to get feedback about coding, navigation, etc from webmasters it’s also important to get feedback from a variety of people so you can see how your site appeals to various groups (and hopefully in there your target audience)


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#10 2008-02-05 22:28:12

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Re: Novice imput.

yes your right there. I just shouldnt take  it all so literraly i think . Lot of good advise  mixed in with everything else . I just need to gain enough experience to sort it out lol..
Jan.

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