#1 2008-01-11 15:56:10
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Please Review - http://www.DayTradersWin.com
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Used Publisher to build this site on my own. For the next few weeks/months I'd like to do whatever I can to make this site optimized for spiders and viewers.
Soon I will redo the entire site with the help of a pro or on my own - with a far more valuable and full-functioning site development software.
My problemw with Publisher, as you may know: navigation, excess page pixels and load time, extremely limited design functionality - and whatever else I don't know about.
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#2 2008-01-11 16:12:28
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Re: Please Review - http://www.DayTradersWin.com
G'day John. Welcome to the forum, Mate. 
Here's my rather harsh advice. You can take it or leave it as you choose.
So you've had a bit of a play with Publisher. My first site was built with Publisher. See the post: http://forums.site-reference.com/topic/ … Rolls-com/
Save all your content to disk and wipe the Publisher stuff. No future in it.
Start from scratch with a proper html editor or a WYSIWYG editor. Quite a few free ones available.
Unless you learn to use it properly, you'll get into many of the same errors with a WYSIWYG editor, as you have with Publisher.
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#3 2008-01-11 17:08:50
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Re: Please Review - http://www.DayTradersWin.com
DayTradersWin wrote:
Used Publisher to build this site on my own.
Congrats! You've gotten further then most people- good to get one under the belt eh? 
I'm sure you learned tons, got some good basic knowledge and have a much better understanding to what goes into a website
Soon I will redo the entire site with the help of a pro or on my own - with a far more valuable and full-functioning site development software.
I think this is a good idea because I believe a site needs to reflect it's promise
what does your site promise to do for it's visitors John?
As mentioned in the other thread I was once employed as a Trader myself. I worked very hard to reach that level because i saw 2 great promises in that 'world'
1) the allure- the whole 'wall street' thing was very appealing, executive lunches and all that jazz
2) $$$
if those are the types of things you want your website to project onto your visitors you need to make sure your website reflects them- this means it has to be very, very, very profesional and portray a rich image
you want your visitors to look at your site and say "wow...look at how nice this is, these guys must be big shots , and i want into this exclusive club..."
i wouldn't buy a house from a homeless man, lets put it that way 
I look forward to seeing what you come up with next! Congrats again on your accomplishments thus far
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#4 2008-01-11 17:51:07
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Re: Please Review - http://www.DayTradersWin.com
Thanks Nic
Our offer (promise) is rather simple - allow me to digress a bit by describing our target clients = Losers:
4 Types (all Old System/Game, all Not Profitable)
• Losers - fearful, greedy, distressed traders
• Bored - traders who break even at best
• Repeat Losers - traders who crash (emotionally) & burn (financially)
• “Winners” - hopeful of having a profitable business
So, our offer is all about helping our clients shift from Losers to Winners (developing a lucrative trading career + a very profitable business - in a matter of months) for those who qualify.
Sure it's about becoming a high roller with $$$ as you said, but the aim is winning, period.
Thanks again for your supportive comments.
John
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#5 2008-01-11 17:57:27
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Re: Please Review - http://www.DayTradersWin.com
Well when I visited the site my first impression was that it lacked credibility. Digging a little deeper I noticed that you suggest that the Copyright started in 1980, really? “© Copyright Day Traders Win 1980-2007” What should one believe?
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#6 2008-01-11 18:11:44
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Re: Please Review - http://www.DayTradersWin.com
High WaveShoppe
Thanks for that comment - credibility. Hmmmm
I've thought about that, as another viewer made a similar comment a year or so ago. Not sure what to do to bring that forward for you and others who have that impression? I'm certainly open to your and any other's thoughts and suggestions.
The Trademark issue is really simple - as a consultant for over 25 years, much of what I have offered executive clients in banking, real estate, and high tech over the years I created, shared, or otherwise generated hundreds of documents over this projected period of tim. So when I present writings from the 70s, 80s, and 90s within the DayTradersWin site, I feel it apporpriate to note that all my material on the site has this legal protection from unlawful use. My Day Traders Win internet business has only been in play for a few years, so I can see how you might find this strange.
Thanks for taking the time to comment and I hope you feel free to further comment about what you observed and recommend in the area of credibility.
John
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#7 2008-01-11 18:29:27
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Re: Please Review - http://www.DayTradersWin.com
DayTradersWin wrote:
High WaveShoppe
Thanks for that comment - credibility. Hmmmm
I've thought about that, as another viewer made a similar comment a year or so ago. Not sure what to do to bring that forward for you and others who have that impression? I'm certainly open to your and any other's thoughts and suggestions.The Trademark issue is really simple - as a consultant for over 25 years, much of what I have offered executive clients in banking, real estate, and high tech over the years I created, shared, or otherwise generated hundreds of documents over this projected period of tim
. So when I present writings from the 70s, 80s, and 90s within the DayTradersWin site, I feel it apporpriate to note that all my material on the site has this legal protection from unlawful use. My Day Traders Win internet business has only been in play for a few years, so I can see how you might find this strange.
Thanks for taking the time to comment and I hope you feel free to further comment about what you observed and recommend in the area of credibility.
John
Hi John, you pretty much came up with your own solution to portraying credibility. How about adding that to a visible area, preferably where people start their scans. Secondly, lose the Christmas colors and standardize the fonts, because as you have it now, it cheapens the site.
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#8 2008-01-11 20:00:56
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Re: Please Review - http://www.DayTradersWin.com
Hi WaveShoppe,
And I thought using Red to connote Losing comments and Green for Winning comments would set the mood for the text.
On the copywight, it's probably easier for understanding, rather than explaining, to use a time spread of 2002 to 2008 - thanks for questioning it.
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#9 2008-01-12 16:55:41
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Re: Please Review - http://www.DayTradersWin.com
Well John, not much has changed since the last review. Your wording is much better but you need a good copywriter if you want a world-class site. One of the best ones I've seen has a few articles on SR - Barry Densa - he's very accessible and quite brilliant IMO. His site is at www.WritingWithPersonality.com
You've built another do-it-yourself-site. You need to give this job away to someone who knows what they're doing. I've told you this before and you keep coming up with objections. Any of the regular guys on SR will do an excellent job for you...and they'll teach you how to add your own content. etc.
Frankly, I think everyones given you a complimentary and pleasant review...pity they weren't aware that you've been doing the same shit over and over again for the last year.
To get your credibility (and If you're a day trader that wins) you'll pay the right people to do these two crucial jobs for you, otherwise you're wasting everyones time, especially your own.
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#10 2008-01-12 19:31:47
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Re: Please Review - http://www.DayTradersWin.com
Elizabeth - thanks, I think.
The "shit" part was a bit much don't you think? - you must have been horseback riding with your laptop when you came up with that one. You're a hoot.
A little perspective for others (with possible interest) might be in order, if you will allow. I'm going to quote a few lines from my recent help request email to you, I'm sure you won't mind, so other's can get a sense of my goals and needs (wants).
"I have a 2 stage approach I want to run by you.
First, I need to get all I can get for prospective client draw from my current site (Publisher generated, as you recall) – getting rid of any coding errors, design crap, appropriate content only, and so on…. – before I present this same site with more clarity, punch, power – with an alternative software/development program (like you were talking about in your offer a while back).
Second, I will have a “world-class” site – attracting suffering or otherwise Loser traders, who have been longing to become [b]Winners [/b]– with both a Lucrative Career + Profitable Business – bla, bla, bla
As I add content, I would prefer to use/learn the software – either on my own or with a top-notch marketing/design/SEO expert (like yourself?).
How will I/we accomplish both?
Well, that’s the purpose of this email; to talk with you about all this, get your guidance, and, should we talk about doing business somehow, your costs for any services."
So, Elizabeth, you are not interested in the above and have referred me to Barry Densa - thanks, you're a straight shooter and a friend. I'll contact him and I'm open to him (he?) or any other professional contacting me to help me get out of my own Website "shit", if that's how they perceive it, and solving my dual problems, as follows again:
1. Keeping business alive with my current site (working out the kinks), until this site is appropriately done over.
2. Create a superior, replacement web site - present new, powerful, and far more effective (prospective client draw) - new site design software (?), writer (?), presentation (?), and so on.
By the way, is seems you left the impression I was trying to "free-load" services on this or any site. I thought you knew me better than that. I don't give my services away, nor have I ever anticipated likewise from any other profession for as long as I've been in business. Don't ask how long that has been - as it would date me - heh heh - and purhaps limit my relationship possibilities with special Ausi women down under.
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#11 2008-01-13 14:30:42
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Re: Please Review - http://www.DayTradersWin.com
Ok, first of all, the site looks very plain. It looks like one of those "Get Rich Quick" sites, you know the ones that say "Make $1000 in a day". Anyways, I really think you need to get some professional help on building your website. Best of luck to you!
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#12 2008-01-13 15:15:43
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Re: Please Review - http://www.DayTradersWin.com
Thanks kims - we all agree my site sucks.
You can't have 2 versions of the same sit up, as we know, so it's fix what I have while getting a pro to redesign the site. Been talking with a couple experts since yeater.
I'm open for any suggestions to make the current site more effective and offers to fix the site in the long run.
Thanks again, Kims
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#13 2008-01-13 15:38:25
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Re: Please Review - http://www.DayTradersWin.com
Sorry all other members, this guy is not here to learn. He has an attitude problem, and fails to understand the psychology of web site readers and the need to get onto the right wavelength with them., nor want to understand this basic need and would not accept any advice
Asked for a site review last year and went off in a huff.
Suggest not wasting any more time on this thread as he is by his own admission, 'talking with experts', so why is he here??? (Maybe they are saying the same as we all have for a year.)
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#14 2008-01-13 16:31:52
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Re: Please Review - http://www.DayTradersWin.com
Ah yes, but bunging on a blue is a good way to get some optimized content to go with your backlinks, huh?
Relevency! Relevent anchor text!
Good stratergy! He just may have got what he came for, huh?
A site in that much trouble with Google needs a good backlink building programme such as has been implemented.

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#15 2008-01-13 17:06:18
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Re: Please Review - http://www.DayTradersWin.com
yes but his url in the request has a no follow - that was implemented quite a while back during the first spam rush
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#16 2008-01-13 17:25:27
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Re: Please Review - http://www.DayTradersWin.com
The nofollow in the review request is a nonsense. 
We all have links all the way down the page. I've got about 5000 SR backlinks. You'd have three times that.
Won't do me much good, of course. Relevancy! I'll have to start bunging on fights so I can waffle on using photography, camping and motorbike key terms to get the relevancy to my backlinks.
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#17 2008-01-13 18:43:50
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I mean the review request link, not sig links
<strong><a href="/profile.php?id=3574" rel="nofollow">DayTradersWin</a></strong>
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#18 2008-01-13 21:46:47
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Re: Please Review - http://www.DayTradersWin.com
Thanks matte.
Yes, I understood that you meant the nofollow on the review link.
It's a nonsense because the requester fills in their profile with a link in the website box and three links in their signature.
Evey time they make a post they get another four backlinks.
This is the whole essence of the forum spam that we get, whether it be a normal post or a review request.
And if someone can bung on a blue, which happens every month or so, while ever others keep responding, they get more relevant backlinks if they're clever enough to fight about their keywords/phrases, as we have seen above.
Of course, the links won't do the spammers much good if they are so naive as to not understand about the relevency issue. But that doesn't stop them filling up an otherwise good forum with spam.
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