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#1 2008-01-09 00:22:07

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Please Review - http://www.PennyRolls.com

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Hello Everyone!!!! I  am New to Web Developing and have been stumbling around to get a decent site up and running...  Looking at other websites here make me feel even greener... But you have to start somewhere... Thank you for looking and I will review as many sites as I can... Looking forward to your posts.


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#2 2008-01-09 07:27:09

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Re: Please Review - http://www.PennyRolls.com

Hi,

It is a nice start.

Spotted a couple of things:

In IE and FF, when I choose a bigger
font your link text resizes over the other text
which doesn't.

I'd also get rid of the counter as it is really
"old school" . Get a free Google
Analytics account instead to keep a track
on your visitors.

Good luck!

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#3 2008-01-09 07:42:30

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Re: Please Review - http://www.PennyRolls.com

Thank you for your help!!........I'm using the counter to help in showing how much traffic there is here,  so people might want to advertise... I know its low right now but If I leave it alone eventually it will have a much higher # and then hopefully serve its purpose. How do I get the links to adjust to the size accordingly?


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#4 2008-01-09 09:26:28

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Re: Please Review - http://www.PennyRolls.com

Welcome to the forum PennyRolls,

You have a decent start but there is a lot that needs to be done to make it better.

I don't mean to be real negative here, just honest.

In FireFox some of the links run outside or over the text, not good.

You have a lot of images with text. There is nothing for the se's to read and if a visitor has images disabled or if the images fail to load for some reason there would be nothing for a visitor to read.

Your navigation also relies on an image. As mentioned above without images no way to move around the site.

In looking at your code there is a lot of code that isn't needed. Most of very specific.

To give you an idea I checked your code to text ratio;
Web Page Size :
81128 Bytes = 79 KB
Code Size :
78824 Bytes = 77 KB
Text Size :
2304 Bytes = 2 KB
Code to Text Ratio : 2.84 %

Suggestions;
Don't not use office to build the site.
Search for a template, there are a lot of free ones available.
Get someone to create a template for you.

Hope this doesn't discourage you, with the people on this forum help is just a question away.


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#5 2008-01-09 16:57:17

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Re: Please Review - http://www.PennyRolls.com

I used publisher to do this site. I don't quite care for it, it seems basic.... I just received a copy of Dreamweaver CS3... I haven't loaded it yet, but I hope its a lot better. I don't understand why the links overflow when the resolution is changed..... I forget, some users won't have images.....plus I'm not a great writer.... So I will work on this. How do you do a text ratio test?........

I am really new at this. I am in school for a BS in web development , but I have only had general classes so far... I wanted to get some experience before my development classes begin....... Thank you for your Help and I really like this site so far, its been helpful already.


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#6 2008-01-09 17:46:28

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Re: Please Review - http://www.PennyRolls.com

I use a tool provided by another website seochat the tool is at http://www.seochat.com/seo-tools/code-to-text-ratio/

DW is a great deal better than publisher. tummenupp


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#7 2008-01-09 18:19:06

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Re: Please Review - http://www.PennyRolls.com

G'day Penny.

I used publisher to do this site.

That's you #1 problem. Start again from scratch with a proper editor.

My first website was made with publisher 98. I thought it was just the bees knees, at first, till I started to see the problems.

As it happened, the computer technician came around to fix a virus and I asked him about it. He told me I needed a html editor, which is what you need, and also a thumbnail generator, because my site was a presentation of photographs.

Dreamveaver will be fine for you with certain qualifications. If you use it in WYSIWYG mode, the same as Publisher, you'll run into the same problems with text running over, as CE has mentioned.

The problems are because the programme has used "position absolute" to size and position the elements.

While some SR members swear by Dreamveaver and others uphold the cheaper alternative, FrontPage,  nearly all the regulars can hand code to fix up the redundant code of the WYSIWYG editors. For others, a WYSIWYG programme is beneath them and they hand code exclusively.

So save all your content to file and wipe the site. Get a fresh start in Dreamveaver but use the html mode.

You may find it better for learning and getting a start in your brave new world of web design, to start off with a basic html editor and learn from the bottom up. There was a thread a few months back, initiated by ColoEagle, dealing with html editors. Would pay you to check it out.

Oh! And you haven't told us yet how you intend to get your traffic. If you have buckets of cash to splash on print media, radio, TV and billboard advertising, then your current approach will be fine. But if you want search engine traffic, and I think you'll need this, you'll need a reversal in your web design philosophy.

Is the site designed to get commission on sales at eBay? I have no idea of the returns on such a venture but I would guess that you'll need a hundred, maybe a couple of thousand such sites, in order to make a monthly cheque. It would pay you to get some reliable advice on this. Hey! If it was easy, we'd all be filthy rich, huh?

Best wishes with it,
Laurie.


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#8 2008-01-09 18:38:03

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Re: Please Review - http://www.PennyRolls.com

Yeah the site is a Precious Metal & Gemstone Information and Ebay listing site.... Ebay gives 50% commission on fees made through sales of my site..... Sounds easy, but I have had no luck yet. I'm going to improve the sites Information to cater to Metal Workers and Gem Facetors.with some Ebay listings and Ad links. I have no clue how to get traffic.....I  don't have buckets of cash...So.......???? .  Goggle is expensive but effective.


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#9 2008-01-09 20:49:15

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Re: Please Review - http://www.PennyRolls.com

OK.

Now I've only sold a couple of things on eBay, maybe only the one that I can remember. As best as I can recall, the fees that I paid on an item that sold for a couple of hundred bucks was to the order of five bucks.

So, OK. You make a referral for a sale worth $1,000. Maybe the seller pays eBay $25. You get $12.50.

Lets say you want $1,000 a week to pay your wages and overheads. We're talking Australian dollars here. That's 80 x $1000 sales you've got to make.

Now, let's say you have a CTR (click through rate) of 1%. That means that one in 100 of your visitors clicks through and makes a $1,000 purchase (on average).

So you're looking for 8,000 visitors to your site per week from the SEs (search engines). Reckon you can do it, Mate?

You need to do a whole lot of study and research before you commence the website building stage of the business. Develop a business model and a business plan. This is in part because the results of your research must be incorporated into the fabric of your site. It's also because your business plan research will tell you if it's a viable concept and under what conditions.

You'll need to study SEO (search engine optimization) and do your keyword research.

It would pay you to have a look at similar sites to yours, making referrals to eBay, and try and match up sales with referring sites. Put many items on your watch list and see how many sell and for what price. Try this for a variety of products: cameras, computer ink, walking sticks, dog collars, motor bikes, whatever you can think of.

Let's leave it there for now. Don't be put off by my implied skepticism. Do your research and make informed decisions. Give a hoy if you need guidance to resources. There are plenty on the forum in the archived posts and articles.

Please understand that I'm not out to crush you or be nasty in any way. Trying my best to call it as it is. I could have said " Great website. Change the black background to a lighter shade and change the fluro text." That needs saying but it's trivial along side the real issues.

Best wishes,
Laurie.

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#10 2008-01-09 23:04:08

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Re: Please Review - http://www.PennyRolls.com

Ebay is expensive.... There is a listing Cost and then an 8% final value fee so its roughly 10% of the sale.... $100 for every $1000 sale then I'd get the %0% of that....... The money is in the High dollar stuff....... Real estate, Cars, Kiss guitar, Gems, Paper money and Coins. ... Getting people to link to ebay through my site is the tricky part......... If someone clicks on an ad... Goes to ebay.... Ebay puts a cookie on their comp..... then as long as that cookie doesnt get deleated.... any time they go directly to ebay... I still get the commissions.... I just need lots of traffic... But I have no money....... SEO? I've heard of it but dont  know enough, ....I will look in to it......Thanks


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#11 2008-01-10 00:24:24

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Re: Please Review - http://www.PennyRolls.com

Getting people to link to ebay through my site is the tricky part

That's why they give you 50% of their take. If it was easy they'd do it them self and keep their full percentage.

Gypsy has an e-book on SEO. A giveaway at ten bucks. Several members have appreciated it. Click on one of his posts and then click on the link in his signature.

And while your spending money, you can tip my buy me flowers button on the left, if you wish.

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#12 2008-01-10 14:09:50

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Re: Please Review - http://www.PennyRolls.com

Hello,

What strikes me the most is that in my browser settings almost the whole right site is un used.
I have to scroll down a lot . I ve been told most visitors dont like that.

I'm sorry I dont want to be that negative, but want to help.

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#13 2008-01-10 18:58:18

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Re: Please Review - http://www.PennyRolls.com

I used MS Publisher for the web pages........I'm not 100% on how to center it... But I have a new and better program that centers it to any browser used. Now I just have to redo my site so its better .....Thank you for your help!!


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#14 2008-01-11 14:13:00

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Re: Please Review - http://www.PennyRolls.com

Another newbie post here but as a veiwers opinion since I am not that great at the code is use another backgound color than the black as it is very tough to read. You have some great content and it is organized well. The black background on all the pages make it gothic looking and the colored text needs to go. By getting rid of the black  background and colored text will give your site a much more professional feel.

Dealing in the kinds of dollars that you are you want a very professional feel to the site. It never ceases to amaze what all the world has to offer over the internet. I always wondered why the kid in the lunch line at school asked for all the wheat pennies in the register holding up the rest of us in line....that was a long time ago. Good luck!

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#15 2008-01-11 15:33:08

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Re: Please Review - http://www.PennyRolls.com

You have the content on the opening page. It's in need of work however. I'll make a few amatuer suggestions.

1. Right away you have coding errors - blue links are randomly placed overlaping other content.

2. Your charts for various commodities are hidden by titles - you need some aligning here.

3. I would suggest you add a header to your left colum - Commodities, or some other

4. Get "Precious Metals & Gemstones" - as opposed to PennyRolls - as your headline and purhaps the name of the website.

5. You may want to switch the Navigation and charts columns - that is get your Nav bar on the left.

6. Your choice of colors and fonts leaves me to think you services are "cheap" - on offense - I like your overall background color, easy on the eyes, the other colors need work, in my view. Maybe you could go to a few of your competitors to see what they have done - not to copy but they may have some ideas you can implement.

7. I don't like the Penny name at all - sounds like rolling pennies for bank deposit - and you want to make big bucks, I would think with gold and all, not Pennies - heh heh.

8. Not sure the business you are in with this opening page - do you sell rings with gemstones? do you sell commodity investments? What "Watched Listings" - confusing

9. Work on your Contacts page - skimpy - need an email box (requests).

10. If you have distinct businesses - you may want to have more than one web site - one for each type of client.

John

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