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It's not the W3C you need to look out for. It's CE. Oh, he's a hard man! 
Anyway, the site seems to function in all browsers so I wouldn't be too worried. Just couldn't help myself. 
Thanks for the reply. I do understand that every bright idea that comes along cannot be implemented. And this is rather radical, huh! 
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It's not the W3C you need to look out for. It's CE. Oh, he's a hard man!
hehe..no worries...i have my Buzzard Repellant at hand
I definitely am a fan of the idea, think it could be good for the site and visitors alike and not that hard to implement
However, whenever I ask for money (as I would be doing in this case for reviews), especially when i rely on others to provide the service, I like to have all by eagles (or ducks) in order
off to the drawing board...
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Ha ha ha what is W3C 
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ok figured I needed to jump in here, great to be missed. 
Laurie, not on holiday (though, I wish I were) been real busy,
work has picked up,
studying this thing they call PHP
working on a new site that is 'ONLY' 4 months behind my original "want to publish date"
helping out a couple of other members with their menu problems,
helping (my son) Jacobs 3rd grade class get ready for their Thanksgiving play, was tonight, a nice job they did too. 
(now remember that is a non-biased opinion) 
Laurie wrote:
It's not the W3C you need to look out for. It's CE. Oh, he's a hard man!
Hey now I resemble that remark 
Nic wrote:
i have my Buzzard Repellant at hand
Buzzard - smuzzard to an Eagle that is funny.................oh wait a minute maybe that could help me out........nah no drugs for this bird, high enough on life 
But don't worry guys, I now have an Eagle Eye on this thread. 
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Almost completely forgot, congratulations on reaching the 1k post mark Laurie 
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So, you must have some thoughts on the fee for service scheme, CE. You'd possibly be the most prolific reviewer, these days. And actually, a very competent, gentle and generous reviewer, at that. 
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Thanks for the kind words Laurie,
Yah, I do have some thoughts on this issue, I won't go into a lot of details as most of it has been covered already.
For the most part I agree, just think there are going to be a lot of bugs to work out so that it all works well for everybody.
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In mobtex, we have a bloke whose a leader in cutting edge technology. It wasn't hard to detect his disappointment at some of the responses to his recent review request. But his peers don't go down to the bottom half and neither does mobtex, normally.
Well seeing as I've been talked about I'll jump in and throw my two cents in!
Laurie (thanks!!) is spot on I rarely bother venturing into the review section, there's just too many stupid posts there for my liking, hell that's why I'm quiet on the forums at the moment, my workload is high and my tolerance is low.
"I like it" - "Loads quick" - "Don't like the colours" - there are so many one liners in there from those bumping post count, how many people asking for a review return to the thread? How many take notice, listen, understand or learn about what is being said? So few. They don't understand not following links and will do all they can to sponge another unrelated link that will get deleted in the end.
I submitted a review request in the previous weeks and yeah it was a let down. It looks like I can't find that thread now but I can't recall perceiving any wow-factor from any comments that were posted. But then as someone who has millions of visitors under his belt, makes money on-line while sleeping and is apparently a mentor (bs), what did I expect?
Nobody noticed this, there's a bug in the checkout, not one person who reviewed my site took a deep enough look to find it, a big fat blatant bug, about 4 or 5 clicks deep but nobody noticed. Hell, when I've done a review I've gone through as many aspects of the site as I can cover, tried the checkout, forms, hunted for bugs and spent some decent time on doing it for the person who's site it is to not reply........
You get what you pay for.
Colo, how you can welcome everyone here with a smile amazes me, I keep seeing you welcome people who's post you've had to edit, how often do they not even reply?
If someone wants a review, screw em, they should pay SR for hosting it. Just a small token fee. $2 USD £1 GBP etc something that says "I've paid for this, I'm not an arsehole, I'll hang around to get value from it" and if they want a specific reviewer to spend time on their site they should pay for that too!
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I don't do reviews because I don't feel qualified to do so. Oh yeah I can say nice site and the colors, navigation is good, but there is still so much for me to learn and retain.
Please don't use that poll system. I think, for me anyway, when I read the reviews that you give to these sites (yes I read the reviews of other peoples sites, and look at the web site) I really learn a lot. What will I learn from a number?
I know another place that uses this system and it stinks. (someone will say wonderfull site but then give you 2 across the board and not tell you what is wrong, how can you learn from that)
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I don't do reviews because I don't feel qualified to do so. Oh yeah I can say nice site and the colors, navigation is good, but there is still so much for me to learn and retain.
I understand that, but you see this can also be really beneficial to someone looking for a review.
The problem I have is I usually get so involved looking at the techie stuff that I overlook some of the most obvious things. When I realize that I have done this I then have to go back in and look again, telling myself that I am just a casual visitor.
I generally point out any coding errors as I am one to take into consideration of complete accessibility. (That not meant that others don't do this). I will consider the type of site and let this assist in my decision as to whether or not I list all the code errors. In addition if the site was built with a program that the person does not have access to the HTML i will usually overlook the errors as well.
I have a sister that is totally lost when it comes to this webmaster stuff. I use her to review sites as I build them so that I get a casual users point of view before it actually goes live.
So someone like yourself or even less webmaster savvy can actually be as beneficial and I will say possibly even more so than someone like me who is a valid code junky and techie type person.
The casual visitor is the most important one to consider for most sites. Now if a website is designed for the techies, then it needs to meet the standards that techie people have.
On a further note, when I first started doing reviews I was amazed at the things I learned by spending time and writing things down about others websites both good and bad.
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You know you guys are worth your weight in gold, but what about the people who are building web sites for fun or cant afford to pay.
There are people out there who dont realise the value of this website and there are people like me who get a review and dont come back till they have sorted out the advise given to them.
I am serious about making my website the best i can and i have spent many many hours working on it.
My reasons for not posting is the fact that even tho i needed help i needed to do things myself and needed to learn how to do them. If you dont understand basics of things then you cant ask relevent questions .
I value the imput in the reviews ive been given .. most of them anyway lol, but i dont want to take your time from someone who needs it , which is why i didnt come back and post untill id done all i could from the first review.
I dont think anything i say can be good advise to anyone just yet .
When the time comes and i think im capable of helping someone with the right advise and know its right you will get sick of seeing my name in here.
Its an excellent help site .Dont let the people who dont come back bother you cause the ones that do really appreciate what you do in here.
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Nobody noticed this, there's a bug in the checkout, not one person who reviewed my site took a deep enough look to find it, a big fat blatant bug, about 4 or 5 clicks deep but nobody noticed.
For em , going that deep takes too much time....most reviews on any forum are normally limited to a main page skim over...5 mins at best.
Time is money.
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Nobody noticed this, there's a bug in the checkout, not one person who reviewed my site took a deep enough look to find it, a big fat blatant bug, about 4 or 5 clicks deep but nobody noticed.
For em , going that deep takes too much time....most reviews on any forum are normally limited to a main page skim over...5 mins at best.
Time is money.
i know, that's why personally i very, vary rarely enter into the reviews section, i don't write a review on face-value, i tend to go a bit deeper than that and you're right it takes the most precious thing we have, time.
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I never go that deep? perhaps 3 links deep on a rare occasion but generally it is wasting time and borderlines on sorting peoples sites out for them (Full overhaul type stuff... nah) . An error in the checkout? If you are gonna put a shopping cart type type system in your site i would imagine it be best to have someone who knows how to install it properly the first time, plus, its your site... giant fat bugs are your problem.
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