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You have to add position: relative to the style

#wrapper2 {

        position: relative;

        text-align: left;

        width: 784px;

        margin: 0 auto;

        height: 1000px;

}

Now the nested div references to it´s parent

Last edited by aknet47 (2007-11-13 17:41:44)

aknet47 wrote:

Now the nested div references to it´s parent

and can be positioned absolute within the wrapper.

Last edited by nybc (2007-11-14 04:18:50)

Actually, the text-align:center; is a fix for IE.  Note Ryan still uses margin:0 auto; for Firefox, though he did forget the position:relative; necessary for setting position for internal objects.

You don't have to set margin-right and margin-left separately, by setting margin:0 auto; he effectively set margin-top:0; margin-bottom:0; margin-left:auto; and margin-right:auto; in a way that saves space.

overklokan wrote:

Hmmm first time hearing that negative values could screw up ranking!

Ive never heard of this either, if google did penalize for this action surely this would screw the rankings of millions of sites?

Using negative values in CSS is common place, I use it allot to align divs and images...

Ive been doing SEO for years and never noticed or ever read about such an issue

I had enough of SEO crap ... You see, for my business I don't need SEs at all ... I refuse
to accept that there's only one way of doing something cause I see that as "success" mass
mania driven with greed ... Mindless, comply-with, one way road ... Not for me! You might be
right about negative values but still, even if I don't comply with that I will get 100+ highly
targeted unique visitors per day (even if my site is under construction) ... Later those numbers
will go to 1.000 and 10.000 easy, without even thinking of Google or any other SE ... I truly
don't like the idea of running business that depends on some person's or company's rules!

If I would go and do it Google's way I would need to remove most of my design ideas, most
of my backlinks (including those that send me good traffic but are PR 0), increase site
weight a lot (add all titles and alts than fight ugly tool tips), bother with title/description/content
keywords and their positioning inside text, submit new site maps every few days and many
other things ... I simply don't want to do that ... Those of you that do it, remember = Google is
now but it won't be forever ... Failing to develop secondary plan is very bad in long run ...

Last edited by overklokan (2008-05-06 16:45:44)

I agree that there are hundreds of ways of getting traffic to your site, but unless you've got lots of $$$ to do your marketing with, the bulk of it will come from the search engines, and getting more traffic from the SEs is always possible

I only build websites to make money, most of the sites are mine and work by affiliate, PPC  schemes. To make money I need visitors to find my sites, click on ads and buy products; and i have the following metrics to work with

popularity of the subject/keyword
competition (who else is tagetting the same things)
Click through rate to my site
Click through rate from my site to the advertisers
cost per click/sale

I can now work on optimising each of those metrics for better results.

I know that people search for products using search engines - for those people I build sites and pages that do well in the search engines. For the other 1%.....it's joust not worth the time at the moment

There's no right or wrong way to go about SEO, some methods work well for some and not others; but for long term results it is best to keep your onsite SEO in line with the SEs best practice guide - it'll be best for the user as well (in most cases)

barry wrote:

negative values will not screw up search rankings, hidden content using negative values (if you get caught) will have an adverse effect on your search rankings

Exactly, and the algorithms to catch you are some of the less-well investigated aspects of SEO research