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#1 2007-11-07 15:42:30

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Lord Help Me With These Affiliates!!

I just got off the phone with someone that wants to sign up for our affiliate program........

However, they don't know the difference between their e'mail address, and their web site address.

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#2 2007-11-07 17:12:30

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Re: Lord Help Me With These Affiliates!!

LOLOL are you running an online affiliate program (or can they drive traffic offline)?

ifit's purely online then you may not want to invest too much time in this candiadate

we actually screen ours- we simply don't want people running poor marketing campaigns when trying to promote our products/services

after all affiliate still represent you to some degree so you don't want any yokel as an affiliate


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#3 2007-11-08 00:57:39

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Re: Lord Help Me With These Affiliates!!

Although... you could take a whiff of opportunity in the air... if they are as "daft" as their problem would describe them then perhaps a little extra time on your part could help them market your site decently while you arrange with them to only pay per 3rd sale...

Or dump em, Idiots never make good sales reps, they are only good for the odd sympathy purchase but i doubt that will apply online.


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#4 2007-11-08 08:13:08

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Re: Lord Help Me With These Affiliates!!

This actually brings up a really good point here.

Typically, in my market (and i'm not being mean here), these guys really don't know a whole lot about computers, the interweb, or much else in the technical field..... ESPECIALLY seo/sem and site design.

So, maybe I should modify our affiliate program to auto-send out an e'mail describing various points for all of these.... more importantly, where to go to get good advice.

That way, maybe they'll actually DO something with their program and site, rather than just letting it sit there, with no traffic, hoping for magical clicks/purchases.

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#5 2007-11-08 23:32:55

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Re: Lord Help Me With These Affiliates!!

I can see how that would help you... its a good idea really, you could possibly have a tutorial you send out once a week (progressing from beginner to advanced) - let mull over each one a bit.


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#6 2007-11-09 08:13:36

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Re: Lord Help Me With These Affiliates!!

As mean as it may sound, I was considering doing it as another source for income.... even tho it's my boss's site and not mine.

I know he wouldn't give a rats butt, as long as I don't spend too much time working on it every week.

Any ideas how to turn that into some income?

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#7 2007-11-09 08:53:06

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Re: Lord Help Me With These Affiliates!!

Well, yeah,  ask em if they want the tutorial... in small print state that for your time you take a percentage of there sales... easy enough concept to sell simply because they wouldnt be making any money if you weren't telling em how. Think of it as a giant under cover pyramid scheme. 5% from lots of affiliates can possibly add up each month.

Plus i am quite content with the idea of taking money from people who are to lazy to figure out how to do it properly while the $ sign is still blinking under there eyelids... and i dont mind if that sounds mean.


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#8 2007-11-09 08:58:24

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Re: Lord Help Me With These Affiliates!!

Actually, what I was thinking, was referring affiliates to services or products that they could use.

We really don't have that many affiliates, and 99% of 'em really don't know whats going on or how to handle the whole subject.

Heck, if a sale is made, I'm getting a bonus from the boss anyways. So, I'm looking at it in terms of potential SEO/SEM value for my sites..... You know.... I help them, and in turn it helps me. Now... how to get a little money from it is the question.

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#9 2007-11-11 23:31:18

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Re: Lord Help Me With These Affiliates!!

Hmmm... first thing that comes to mind is adwords... direct em to a page selling lots of your/who evers helpful tools, add a bit of adwords in there and hope they dont realize what they are clicking on. Not to say you place your adds in any sneaky way, just that goolge tends to make em look enticing.


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#10 2007-11-12 08:49:08

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ROFL.... Nice title change Nic! hahahhaa

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#11 2007-12-02 04:41:10

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Re: Lord Help Me With These Affiliates!!

I can almost bet these same folks can tell you which color lure to use when the pike are biting in the seaweed bed on a clear summer morning, as compared to which lure works best as the sun goes down the first day of large mouth season with a drizzle. I know the type of people, who want to be your affiliates! I am the same type of person -- starting out with merely a love for a hobby, and now actually studying hard on the history of Teddy Bears to write enough articles to become "an expert" in this field, to get into affiliating myself. It's all about learning more and getting involved more into our hobbies, which, sometimes, gets us into learning something that we never thought we would learn (like web sites!)

Can you set up a two-tiered system, or one of those zoom-thru links (still don't know the right words), on your own site to set it up so these folks, and folks with sites about fishing, can have affiliate links that jump to your site, and immediately jump over to your boss' site? They get a percentage of the sale through you, while you get a bigger percentage of the sale (enough that you can split the money 40/60). In exchange for you getting a good chunk of their earnings, your site teaches the type of folks, who would want to affiliate with your boss' company, how to create a site, good SEO, good marketing blurbs about the products, and articles, as well as, gathering info, so their sites are easy to find, for those looking. I'm picturing a site similar to this site -- with articles to read, the ability to sign-up, for newsletters, and a forum where they can network together, hopefully easing your load on the teaching part.

Instead of paying for the education, a portion of their earnings through that education goes to you. It guarantees that the ones willing to take the effort to learn are the only ones sticking around long enough to make you and them some money.

Since you're dealing with folks, who know fishing, I can see this growing past just making money for your boss, onto using affiliate marketing  to market rods and reels, fish finders, and even fishing boats.

Does this idea sound like something you would enjoy and would work for you? Worse comes to worse, hopefully. it  sparked an idea into your brain, and you run with it, even if it's not like my idea at all.

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#12 2007-12-02 06:57:20

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Re: Lord Help Me With These Affiliates!!

If they are that dumb, don't bother.

In Australia, there are only 20-30 affiliates who know what they are doing, and I am one of them and I don't know that much, but I make 5 figures in affiliate income.

So working on percentages, in the US I guess there are only 2-3,000 worth having.

99% of affiliates don't have a clue.

90% of merchants don't have a clue either.

If yoyu want a good affiliate, then you need to identify and target them, and be prepared to pay them a higher commission.

There is no benefit in trying to help them, unless it is on an hourly rate.

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#13 2007-12-02 15:47:45

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Re: Lord Help Me With These Affiliates!!

So matte,

Would you like to give us one of your excellent "six point plans" on being a good affiliate?

Thanks,
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#14 2007-12-02 18:26:04

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Re: Lord Help Me With These Affiliates!!

laurie_m wrote:

So matte,

Would you like to give us one of your excellent "six point plans" on being a good affiliate?

Thanks,
Laurie.

To be a good affiliate I think:

1. you have to be capable of building a solid website
2. you have to know seo - if its not found, then no referrals are possible
3. you have to know how to include affiliate links in pages that act as a first step to the ultimate purchase
4. You have to be prepared to work hard at it - affiliate does NOT mean lazy links and see what happens
5. You have to be prepared to communicate and work in with the merchant (if the merchant themselves can give a toss)
6. Depending on your approach, know how to target niches, or other ways to capture a market that is relevant to your site - or, create a site to suit the programs you are approaching. Case in point, remember our mate beatles 9 who used to hang out here?

Enough to go on?

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#15 2007-12-03 03:51:25

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Re: Lord Help Me With These Affiliates!!

Thanks matte.

3. you have to know how to include affiliate links in pages that act as a first step to the ultimate purchase

This is a point that you keep pushing in site reviews and other posts. Difficult to come to terms with for some of us. Partly a personality thing, of course.

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#16 2007-12-03 04:44:42

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Re: Lord Help Me With These Affiliates!!

Its not hard really - compare an affiliate who just places a banner on a page (often amongst lots of other banners - you know the one's - they have them just listed down the page) to a person who perhaps writes even a paragraph or two introducing and providing some reassurance that the merchant they are being directed to offers good products at a good price. This can be further extended to even writing a review etc.

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#17 2007-12-03 13:24:26

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Re: Lord Help Me With These Affiliates!!

Thanks, Matte! I just took notes!

Enough to go on?

It's a start. Won't need to know more until step 1 (which also really includes step 2) is done. blinka

I'm a reader. Do you know any books that could help me rise to the top of International Affiliates? Could use detailed directions for 3-6! I've been collecting affiliation links for the big boys (Build-a-Bear and the likes), but didn't even realize we needed a relationship!

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#18 2007-12-03 15:29:52

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Re: Lord Help Me With These Affiliates!!

There are a number of affiliate forums about - worth lurking on those.

The relationship, while not critical, means you are then in a better position to get information on things like specials etc that you may ordinarily miss, or be able to make special requests.

Of course the main thin with affiliate marketing, make sure the merchant site is a converting one - otherwise find one that is!

This may mean running a few on your site then seeing how they perform, then reducing them to those that perform and putting effort into those.

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