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Jeannie · 2007-06-13 17:30:52

Website for Review
http://www.wearsthebeach.com

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I have enjoyed the sense of humor in this forum.
It will come in handy when you review my site (please)
big_smile

waveshoppe · 2007-06-13 18:07:55

What’s the purpose of this site? It appears to be just a page to host links to ujena and it without any added user value.

Jeannie · 2007-06-13 18:23:09

waveshoppe wrote:
What’s the purpose of this site? It appears to be just a page to host links to ujena and it without any added user value.

It is an affiliate site for ujena swimwear. I had hoped to expand into other beach-related sites with sub-domains... after I figure out how to run this one first. glad

Jeannie · 2007-06-13 18:26:33

TA wrote:
You've gravely mistaken this Forum -- I'm the Grumpy Ol' Fart ... just ask anybody...

Now, for the review -- at the present time, you need to correct the following code warnings ... then, you need to "tighten up your code", meaning it's got way too many spaces -- after that, we need to work on your meta tags, as they too are scattered everywhere and aren't coded properly...

I am not sure how to fix this, but I will go look. I used NVU software.

OK... I am lost right out of the gate. I have looked at my source and I don't see what you see.
I found a W3C markup validator program with my software.

Should I use that ...or just shoot myself now?

Last edited by Jeannie (2007-06-13 19:28:05)

Jeannie · 2007-06-14 07:19:10

I am attempting to figure out how to fix the "trimming empty" warnings. If anyone could give me some advice on where to go or how or how to do it, that would be great. My site was built from scratch by someone with NO experience (me), but I am not afraid to mess with code.

I will be on and off the radar for a few days...time to go to my other job.

Thank you.
-Jeannie

Steven_A_S · 2007-06-14 09:50:18

OK, these aren't big errors, and easy to fix. I'll start off by pointing you to a tool that will help you find where they are. You will need Firefox to run it, but it's a good idea to have Firefox anyway, even if only to verify that your pages work on it. The tool you're looking for is called HTML Validator. This is the tool TA used to get those warnings, and it will point you right to each of the errors in the code.

The particular warnings you are getting mean that you have a pair of tags that aren't being used. Take this stretch of code taken from your page for example:

Code: html

<big><big><big><span style="font-family: Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;"></span></big></big><font style="font-family: Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;" size="+1"><big><span style="color: rgb(207, 38, 170);"></span></big></font></big>

I'll make it more readable here:

Code: html

<big>

  <big>

    <big>

      <span style="font-family: Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;">

      </span>

    </big>

  </big>

  <font style="font-family: Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;" size="+1">

    <big>

      <span style="color: rgb(207, 38, 170);">

      </span>

    </big>

  </font>

</big>

There is nothing in there that is being used. All those tags work on text between the opening tag (such as <big>) and the closing tag (such as </big>) but you don't have any text inside that whole mess, just more tags. That whole mess could be deleted and it wouldn't affect the way your page displays. What it will do though is reduce the size of your page and make it more manageable.

Steven_A_S · 2007-06-15 12:18:55

Oops, did I let that secret out? rodna

Jeannie · 2007-06-16 18:05:51

2 questions:

I dont know anything about Firefox. Would like to install, but keep with IE, unless and until I decide to switch. Any problem with that?

I can see these problems in my pages codes (one page at a time in my site building software), and I know how they happen. It happens when I adjust the size of fonts, and the software doesnt remove the tags, just keeps adding them. Is that typical?

-Jeannie

Steven_A_S · 2007-06-18 12:32:24

It's the nature of the beast.

It's usually a good idea of your going to use a web design program, to edit the source afterwards and clean up the left over garbage. Front Page is especially bad about that. One warning, if you only use IE to test your web pages, especially if they're designed in Front Page, there's the possibility of missing problems on other browsers. In this case I haven't seen any, but it would be a good idea to have FF around for testing at least. If you have access to a Mac, you may want to test on it too. you can get Firefox as a free download at www.mozilla.com. Don't worry, it will coexist with IE

Jeannie · 2007-06-21 08:30:04

Hi, I was taken by suprise out of town visitors and unable to keep up.
I installed FF and found the HTML validator and need to check out the user instructions.
I am still on this, though. Any tips on using the validator and making the corrections??
I see the site is valid W3c Transitional-(whatever that means)

Thanks,
-Jeannie

Jeannie · 2007-06-28 10:30:29

Hi Again,
I finally got a minute to clean up most of the pages. It was pretty easy, with your instructions. Thank you.

I was also given this instruction:
"after that, we need to work on your meta tags, as they too are scattered everywhere and aren't coded properly..."

I would like to work on this next.

(Should I continue posting in this thread? Please advise.)
-Jeannie

Steven_A_S · 2007-06-29 10:25:01

Good job cleaning up those errors, but one thing I noticed is that my browser is still going into "quirks mode" to view it. A browser goes into "quirks mode" when it's not sure how to display a page usually due to a problem with the doctype declaration. The browser renders the page like an older quirky browser on the assumption that it's an older page designed around those quirks.

Looking at your doctype declaration, I noticed it appears to be incomplete, and this is probably what's causing it to go into quirks mode. Try this declaration and see if it fixes the problem:

Code: html

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"

"http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd">

This can be combined on one line, or on two lines as shown. The additional information tells the browser where to find the document type definition (DTD)

Jeannie · 2007-07-07 06:36:43

Hey, I am unable to change the doctype declaration with NVU. I researched it and it is a gliche or something in the software. Not sure what to do about this. I have other trouble with NVU, too; especially with images and graphics.

When I first joined this forum, I was concerned and inquired about my website disappearing from Google searches. This website was gone for a month. July 5th it returned to page one on Google for my main search term; was there for 2 days and vanished again last night. I realize I am way too inexperienced to figure this out, but it sure makes me sink. I have not worked on this site, except to make the suggested corrections.

Do you think the doctype declaration issue might have anything to do with this?

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