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#1 2007-05-24 09:37:35

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web site traffic increasing -alexa rank decreasing ??????

Hi,
I have strange situation:
Th web site traffic is being increasing but www.alexa.com rank decreasing.
Do you have any ideas why it is happening?


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#2 2007-05-24 10:13:22

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Re: web site traffic increasing -alexa rank decreasing ??????

Yes


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#3 2007-05-24 10:14:24

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Re: web site traffic increasing -alexa rank decreasing ??????

only a certain type (or types) of people use alexa.
guessing your audiance are not those types.

EG

My article marketing site has an alexa rank in the top 100 000 (they only go up to 100 000!!)
Sites I do SEO work on now for adrenaline sports get 1000 times more visitors and have no alexa rank.

It's called demographics and can be quite interesting


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#4 2007-05-24 12:47:51

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Re: web site traffic increasing -alexa rank decreasing ??????

Alexa measures how many people visits a site...but how do they do that?

Answer: through their toolbar. Therfore only peolpe who have downloaded the Alexa toolbar are counted in the results.

So you may have a popular site but if no none of you visitors are using the Alexa toolbar then they won't be counted


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#5 2007-05-24 21:35:01

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Re: web site traffic increasing -alexa rank decreasing ??????

Thanks for good answer.
So, what is the most accurate traffic ranking system in internet?


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#6 2007-05-24 23:06:34

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Re: web site traffic increasing -alexa rank decreasing ??????

ittower wrote:

So, what is the most accurate traffic ranking system in internet?

tail /var/log/access_log

??

don't know how you'd get more accurate than that


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#7 2007-05-25 02:31:27

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Re: web site traffic increasing -alexa rank decreasing ??????

I've never fully understood why traffic rank is important to people

Unique visitors to my site and how they got there is important


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#8 2007-05-25 07:52:30

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Re: web site traffic increasing -alexa rank decreasing ??????

With ya North.... it's all about the traffic..... that's the guage to be following (and rankings if yer into that)..... a great Alexa ir Google Toolbar ranking ain't much if it don't mean traffic....

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#9 2007-05-28 10:59:19

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Re: web site traffic increasing -alexa rank decreasing ??????

Northie wrote:

I've never fully understood why traffic rank is important to people

Unique visitors to my site and how they got there is important

Personally, I also not concerned with PR ..as most of my traffic comes from yahoo, msn (search) or where I promote my site..I not really concerned about my google PR! Of course, I realize I am a minority!

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#10 2007-05-30 10:54:12

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Re: web site traffic increasing -alexa rank decreasing ??????

PR rank is good, but anything up to and including a Google rank of 5 is too easy to buy and/or fudge and thus is no real measure of traffic, value or worth. Anything higher is progressively higher to attain.

I personal hold no value to Yahoo's system as if considers internal links within it's algorithms and thus is useless as a measure of external value.

Alexa is a reasonable measure - perhaps - and then only if you are in the top 500, perhaps for 100. It relies almost entirely on the toolbar (which despite their denials still has spyware issues) and is mostly installed by webmasters (but not this webmaster, nuh uh! smash). Plus, certainly up to perhaps the 100,000 rank mark it is incredibly easy to fudge it you intended to do so.
[ They are reasons to do so: vainglory and out and out fraud being the primary ones ]



For about £1,000 to can get a million visitors to your site, supposedly. Getting all those are interested customers and conversation would be great - more likely your are getting a tonne of bandwidth eaten up and, oh yes, a world of bad press from huge numbers (possibly) tricked into visiting you.

Nope, realistically anything but genuine, organically grown traffic is futile.

Hint : People in the desert don't take kindly to folk trying to sell them dry crackers yikes


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Re: web site traffic increasing -alexa rank decreasing ??????

PR rank is good, but anything up to and including a Google rank of 5 is too easy to buy and/or fudge and thus is no real measure of traffic, value or worth. Anything higher is progressively higher to attain.

I personal hold no value to Yahoo's system as if considers internal links within it's algorithms and thus is useless as a measure of external value.

Alexa is a reasonable measure - perhaps - and then only if you are in the top 500, perhaps for 100. It relies almost entirely on the toolbar (which despite their denials still has spyware issues) and is mostly installed by webmasters (but not this webmaster, nuh uh! smash). Plus, certainly up to perhaps the 100,000 rank mark it is incredibly easy to fudge it you intended to do so.
[ They are reasons to do so: vainglory and out and out fraud being the primary ones ]



For about £1,000 to can get a million visitors to your site, supposedly. Getting all those are interested customers and conversation would be great - more likely your are getting a tonne of bandwidth eaten up and, oh yes, a world of bad press from huge numbers (possibly) tricked into visiting you.

Nope, realistically anything but genuine, organically grown traffic is futile.

Hint : People in the desert don't take kindly to folk trying to sell them dry crackers yikes


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#12 2007-05-30 12:15:14

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Re: web site traffic increasing -alexa rank decreasing ??????

PR rank is good, but anything up to and including a Google rank of 5 is too easy to buy and/or fudge and thus is no real measure of traffic, value or worth. Anything higher is progressively higher to attain.

I personal hold no value to Yahoo's system as if considers internal links within it's algorithms and thus is useless as a measure of external value.

Alexa is a reasonable measure - perhaps - and then only if you are in the top 500, perhaps for 100. It relies almost entirely on the toolbar (which despite their denials still has spyware issues) and is mostly installed by webmasters (but not this webmaster, nuh uh! smash). Plus, certainly up to perhaps the 100,000 rank mark it is incredibly easy to fudge it you intended to do so.
[ They are reasons to do so: vainglory and out and out fraud being the primary ones ]



For about £1,000 to can get a million visitors to your site, supposedly. Getting all those are interested customers and conversation would be great - more likely your are getting a tonne of bandwidth eaten up and, oh yes, a world of bad press from huge numbers (possibly) tricked into visiting you.

Nope, realistically anything but genuine, organically grown traffic is futile.

Hint : People in the desert don't take kindly to folk trying to sell them dry crackers yikes


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#13 2007-05-31 16:05:14

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Re: web site traffic increasing -alexa rank decreasing ??????

PR and Alexa are good if someone want to pay you for a blog post.

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