#1 2007-05-04 10:32:14
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Shopping Carts
Everything fell through with the whole Miva thing that I had going on... not really a loss per say, as I wasn't too fond of it anyways.
So now I'm thinking of doing the same set up that I have done at another site, but thought I'd get some suggestions from you guys first.
In the end, I think we can all agree that it would be nice to have a shopping cart and payment system that looks identical to the site the visitor is buying from. How can I do this?
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#2 2007-05-05 12:24:30
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Re: Shopping Carts
I use my own: OneSmartCart.com which is powered by 1SC (one of the biggest shopping carts providers)
It allows different payment methods including paypal which is nice
you can customize the order pages to some extend (such as adding your logo, colors, etc) but you can't make it look exactly like one of your webpages
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#3 2007-05-06 07:30:55
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Re: Shopping Carts
We use mostly the OSCommerce family products (OSC, Creload, OSC Max, Cube bla bla bla). This gives us COMPLETE control over the cart. With a non- Open Source cart we are hampered my Liscencing restrictions and encoded applications....
Control and customization is everything for me and as such commercial carts rarely fit the bill....
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#4 2007-05-06 10:22:56
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for me installing customer confidence is very important
Whether you do that through complete customization, or using a trusted SC or anything else…if you can get your visitors to feel confident in you and your process then you’ve won the battle 
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#5 2007-05-06 10:41:05
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Good points both of you. I'll have to look into our hosting plan and see what I have available.
As of right now, I 'think' I have a little fix worked out good enough so I can move on with the web design portion. The whole shopping cart part isn't seamless, however I think monetizing the site and giving it a more pro-like look will help the conversions more than anything.
It really is a pile of crap.... I shudder just thinking about it.
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#6 2007-05-06 17:52:41
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look at mals-e.com as well
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#7 2007-05-07 14:22:16
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It just so happens that I use Mals on another site of mine. It does work pretty good, and easy to understand.
It's fairly stripped down, so you can't exactly do a whole lot with it.... but like you said... it's free. 
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#8 2007-05-07 17:06:35
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Re: Shopping Carts
mals stripped?
It does a whole heap - zoned delivery, taxes, coupon, a variety of discount criteria - that's just off the top of my head.
The only thing is modifying the display beyond a certain level - but not many offer that either
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#9 2007-05-08 07:52:25
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Re: Shopping Carts
MrStitch wrote:
It just so happens that I use Mals on another site of mine. It does work pretty good, and easy to understand.
It's fairly stripped down, so you can't exactly do a whole lot with it.... but like you said... it's free.
Uh... OSCommerce is free and TOTALLY flexable???? Hmmmmmm....
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#10 2007-05-08 08:03:17
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by stripped, I meant the overall 'look'. I can add my company banner to the top, but I can't really customize it to look like my site.
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#11 2007-05-08 23:33:12
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MrStitch wrote:
by stripped, I meant the overall 'look'. I can add my company banner to the top, but I can't really customize it to look like my site.
The number of remotely hosted carts that offer detailed display customisations is quite limited.
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#12 2007-05-10 07:52:10
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Keep in mind folks.. you want not only the ability to modify design wise, but more importantly control for the SEO aspects...
I am NOT a fan of remotely hosted carts in any way. I wouldn't touch one with my SEO Services for all the Tea in China (or anywhere else for that matter). It is next to impossible.....
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Re: Shopping Carts
TheGypsy wrote:
Keep in mind folks.. you want not only the ability to modify design wise, but more importantly control for the SEO aspects...
I am NOT a fan of remotely hosted carts in any way. I wouldn't touch one with my SEO Services for all the Tea in China (or anywhere else for that matter). It is next to impossible.....
Agreed.
Even though I have remotely hosted check-outs, the cart is always onsite
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#14 2007-05-10 10:45:42
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Re: Shopping Carts
Newbie here, and these are probably some dumb questions (sorry to hi-jack your thread!)
My business has a 0 budget at the moment - but needs to have the ability for customers to buy online. How does Mals-(?) compare with say PayPal?
Is OS Commerce free? If so, how does it compare with the above 2?
I've only just begun looking at PayPal's shopping cart (the "free" version) so not real sure what to look at/compare.
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#15 2007-05-10 11:53:24
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Paypal has a free shopping cart?
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#16 2007-05-10 13:10:47
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I know, but... and even tho I never looked into paypal that deep, I 'thought' Paypal was just a payment processor.... not a shopping cart per say. Two different things there.
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#17 2007-05-10 14:40:05
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Re: Shopping Carts
OSCommerce is an 'Open Source' application - which means:
1. It's free
2. It's OPEN SOURCE - which means we can modify the code to our liking. A commercial product doesn't allow for such in the liscencing and is often encoded so you can't access much of the actual code.
For me that is the main benefit. No 2 online stores are the same and as such having the ability to adapt the cart to the client is mega-huge.....
And YES Virginia - PayPal does have a cart.. we've never used it on a project, but as with most liscenced applications I assume it would be 'as is' - meaning we cannot change nor modify the code in any way (legally at least).
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#18 2007-05-10 15:26:39
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Just curious to why no one has mentioned Google Checkout yet?
No one try it or is everyone mad at Google?
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#19 2007-05-10 15:30:12
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Haven't looked into it yet.
I wonder what it even looks like....
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#20 2007-05-10 15:35:29
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Well.. the fine folks at Google have waived the processing fees for Google Checkout until 2008 in an attempt to get more folks signed up....
We do have some clients that use it.. as I mentioned, the more options to take people's money, the better. Use them ALL!!!!
We don't get much demand for setting up ecommerce sites with G- Checkout though... there hasn't been a great rush on it..... PayPal seems to still rule the day....
PayPal even has Debit Cards now... very cool... and a Virtual terminal for Brick and Mortars.... I htink G has a ways to go....
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