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#1 2007-03-16 12:48:40

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MSN and Yahoo Search Engineers

Are they still on vacation? Any idea when they are returning to planet earth? Or have they just packed the bags and said, "screw this mess"?

I have been down on Google for the longest but it appears it is able to give better results even battling through the mess with the spammers and black hat folks. Thumbs up for Google. But geez the algo's of Yahoo and MSN are just plagued without the ability to filter trash as far as my field goes.

Check this out for MSN #1 for- dallas pc repair        not on the map for- dallas computer repair

I did not dig much pass 12 pages but geez why? I was like 60 something then I fell off the cliff. As far as I can tell my link profile is pretty much surpass that of the competition and my inbound text links are mostly '"dallas computer repair".

Same pretty much results with Y except for the dallas computer repair I am like 67th position but much better with dallas pc repair KW phrase.

I try and use the word computer in my site more than PC since PC is in my domain name.

And what about these lame spammers still using hidden text the same color as their background and MSN doesn't catch that keyword spamming trick. Come on MSN Search Engineers. It cannot be too difficult to filter that out is it?

Maybe I just need to loosen up on the caffeine. Find an online pharmacy for some Xanax or Valium and then stroll over to the local online gambling casino then go to a peep show, all at the convenience of my computer. If my computer breaks down, I'll just call my local spammer to get me out of a jam.


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#2 2007-03-16 13:42:12

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Re: MSN and Yahoo Search Engineers

Hang in there bud, you'll come out soon enough.

Not sure how often MSN updates, but usually it's not that bad.

Yahoo on the other hand is like a sloth..... a sloth stoned out of it's mind. Takes FOREVER to get anything done.

I'd say keep doing what you're doing and if you don't see the results you need in a few months, then make a couple small changes.

Afterall.... what you're doing right now is improving your ranking in certain area's, right? If so, then we can assume that you're at least on the right track.

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#3 2007-03-16 15:09:46

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Re: MSN and Yahoo Search Engineers

I just think that those SEs are the strangest animals. MSN always show like way old cached paes of mine. It has been better lately. But yeah, both seem just too much slower for their own good, i.e. if they would catch up to speed as far as indexing, crawling etc. that would seem an improvement. But the relevant search returns...I would not want to be a search engineer and have my boss come to me and say look at our search returns for "ugly widgets" and look at G's returns for the same search. "Greg, how say you?". I would have to tell my boss I suck.

And it is my fault to begin with as far as my dilemma, not just the back links, but taking the whole site and simply reformatting-redesigning it to a simpleton approach was like starting the site over fresh again even though the content and page files remained pretty much the same.

And here is a question!?!?

Is yahoo listing so powerful that it alone could overcome several hundred weak one-way inbound links I have? It does appear that way with one competitor who has reached the top of the pyramid here locally. AND, that $299 listing is just for one year? Makes poor doggy boys like me never catch my breath struggling for the weak inbounds. If it was $299 for a permanent listing then I would definitely make that a goal.

I am going to get my newly acquired staff to get out and hunt links for me or better create a blog and get busy with it.


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#4 2007-03-16 15:28:51

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Re: MSN and Yahoo Search Engineers

hmm - I think that for just about anything thats not technical related, MSN or Yahoo does a much better job than Google of returning a relevant useful result.

seriously, if you're googling for just about anything thats non-technical there will be a crappy wikipedia article, a youtube video, and probably a myspace page on the first page.  There is a lot more trash on Google these days


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#5 2007-03-16 15:34:26

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Mutilated, go check out Yahoo for "dallas computer repair" without quotes. That guy is a class spam site operator. He keeps creating the same site over and over. Then of course he links them all together to form one massive #%@ bomb. I wonder if he even does repairs or farms them out?


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#6 2007-03-16 16:07:52

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Re: MSN and Yahoo Search Engineers

well his domain is "dallas computer repair" so you'd expect him to be ranked well wouldn't you ? , sure his site is kind of crappy - but I don't see why you think he shouldn't rank for that term

btw - he's number 2 on google, so I don't really see your point if google is supposedly better at filtering junk  ??


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#7 2007-03-16 16:20:22

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Well Google thrashed his entire network that loomed there off and on for the longest and now he is left with the original site. I expect him to do ok but for the name, is google able to read the whole name without hyphens or underscores or have I misunderstood that about url names? And just because he owns the url name is that nomenclature going to supersede content, links, etc.? I think not. There I would disagree. But his site has more age on it than any other site so I would think that is where his ranking score is derived.

But take that term to Yahoo and MSN and you see his entire network within a page turn or two. Yahoo is his best domain for repeated sites (and hidden text). He may differentiate some sites with hidden text and others not or just plain keyword injection to the max. He varies on it a bit. Very diversified and creative at times, he seems.

But in conclusion with that search term there is a big difference in returned results between search engines for what actually lies in those sites and the relationship to how they rank.


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#8 2007-03-17 13:45:37

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Re: MSN and Yahoo Search Engineers

I would start a campaign of destruction mate.

Shop him to G for the hidden text. If you can find where to do the same on MSN and Yahoo, do it there too.

Find one of those "submit your classified ad to 30 billion pages" type applications. Submit his site and link 10 times a day for a month.

Start a blog about your chosen industry, write content targeting everything he ranks well for, link to yourself

Start another blog about PC repair scammers, link to him.

Start a blog about kittens, link to him

Start a myspace about seashells and their connection to the intelligence of puppies, Link to him and your kitten blog.

He spams, he deserves to be broken. Break him.

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your starter for 10, Ive shopped him to google. Add another vote and do it yourself too

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#9 2007-03-17 22:38:34

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Re: MSN and Yahoo Search Engineers

OMG, that is soooooo cruel, I laughed all the way to the Mountain Dew shop. I got a 64oz. refill, one of "those" Saturday nights, broke and home as usual. Den's I started thinkin' on the way.......I love kitty kats, I had one as a little boy in Oklahoma. Den's I said to "self", "self" wouldn't you really like to start an online discussion about titty tatz? Self said, "yes, I would! I willy wood. I want to talk about fuzzy ketty tats." But den I said, but I knows, nothing bout kitties, I mean there are soooo many breeds and colors of different breeds and the different food to feed and not to feed and the different housing, bedding, breeding, care of, maintaing, cat shows, etc.

So after long and careful deliberation ('bout 5 minutes writing this) I decided I could not do it.....I mean I just could.....not...bring..

the name of the blog is ...............http://fuzzy-wuzzy-little-purry-kitty-kats. xxxxx.com

I'm busy.....gottagoby


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#10 2007-03-17 23:34:59

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uhhh, never realized there was a Japanese Bobtail, my what the web has to offer. I would like a Japanese Bobtail, they sound fun. Evidently they are closely related to a spammer I know of.


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