#1 2007-03-13 16:30:28
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plagiarism
Just thought this may be interesting to anyone else who publishes articles or similar content...
from time to time i receive "suspicious" article submissions- the article seems really good but there is something fishy about either the author bio or the author name, etc
Often times after doing some research i can tell the article has been ripped off (or so i believe it has)
Such was the case today as i was preparing the newsletter...
a so called "Renee James" submitted an article titled: How Can Camtasia Increase Your Web Traffic?
after a little Google action i have spotted this same article (same content, variations on the title) already submitted in a wide amount of places...
thus far i every link i hit in the results below claims a different authors is responsable for it.... have a look and see how many people claim to be the author of this article; each result has a new author:
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=n … +affiliate
Now whether Renee James who submitted this article is really the author or not, i have no idea- all i know is i'll play it safe and not publish it
Anyways- just thought i would bring this up to remind everyone it's worth doing some due diligence before publishing content's whose source you are not familiar with
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#2 2007-03-13 18:12:24
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Re: plagiarism
tsk - task ... that's why I never bothered writing articles...
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#3 2007-03-13 19:04:12
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Re: plagiarism
TA wrote:
tsk - task ... that's why I never bothered writing articles...
Oh thank god for that! i thought I was the only one who couldnt be bothered!
So many pages, so little time.
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#4 2007-03-13 22:19:44
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Re: plagiarism
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tsk - task ... that's why I never bothered writing articles...
oh yah,
I wrote several articles, even had the wife and a couple employees write articles for publishing. Didn't take long before I seen a few of them with a different author in the bio. Have now stopped that and only publish them on my own site now.
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#5 2007-03-14 00:38:25
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Re: plagiarism
I would never publish anyone's crap or good stuff.
Nic wrote:
Just thought this may be interesting to anyone else who publishes articles or similar content...
from time to time i receive "suspicious" article submissions- the article seems really good but there is something fishy about either the author bio or the author name, etc
Often times after doing some research i can tell the article has been ripped off (or so i believe it has)
Such was the case today as i was preparing the newsletter...
a so called "Renee James" submitted an article titled: How Can Camtasia Increase Your Web Traffic?
after a little Google action i have spotted this same article (same content, variations on the title) already submitted in a wide amount of places...
thus far i every link i hit in the results below claims a different authors is responsable for it.... have a look and see how many people claim to be the author of this article; each result has a new author:
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=n … +affiliate
Now whether Renee James who submitted this article is really the author or not, i have no idea- all i know is i'll play it safe and not publish it
Anyways- just thought i would bring this up to remind everyone it's worth doing some due diligence before publishing content's whose source you are not familiar with
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#6 2007-03-15 12:36:37
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Re: plagiarism
I don't get it -- especially writing that in response to an editor for an ezine. If no one ever wrote articles, I'd still be submitting my websites to SEs or Ping my journal entries every time I update them. Yes, some dweebs make it a habit of stealing other's works, but you think the response is to write no articles?! My one article that was picked up by others (others haven't been) enlightened some on an important issue, and garnished my sites some extra visitors. It did what it was supposed to do.
To let the theives win, is to ultimately make the Internet one big commericial! Is that really what you want? I realize that the Internet has more commercials on it then TV, but, at least, sometimes, in between the commericials I can retreive good information or have some fun! I just don't think the response to theives is to let them win. Mock, embarrass, hang them up with computer wiring, but don't let them win. 
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#7 2007-03-15 13:16:51
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Re: plagiarism
I like your style Lynn
!!!
Colo- what did you do after you saw others had claimed your articles as their own?
I've written plenty of articles myself and thus far haven't had any issues with that (could my writting be so poor no one wants to copy them
?!?)
Myself when i get articles submitted who's author is not the original I
1) try and locate original author
2) contact original author to make them aware of the situation
3) contact fake author and allow them to respond
4) track down the sites of the fake author
5) if response is not delivered or not appropriate I alert the SE's that the fake authors are using plagiarised materials to bost their links and rankings
Other thoughts on what can be done?
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#8 2007-03-15 13:23:58
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Maybe we all should copy Nic's articles and post 'em everywhere as our own... 
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#9 2007-03-15 14:24:25
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Re: plagiarism

TA wrote:
Maybe we all should copy Nic's articles and post 'em everywhere as our own...
I've been keeping my eye on you ever since you started those few posts about editing PDF's- something was fishy there...but now the truth comes out TA... or should i call you "Renee James"!!! 
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#10 2007-03-15 14:36:05
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Re: plagiarism
G'day.
The appropriate respons to plagiarism would vary widely according a whole range of factors. Two that spring to mind are:
- Are you a big fish or a little fish in this huge ocean?
- Your personality type. There are those who are driven to persue justice to the bitter end, and those who can happily leave the matter and get on with something easier, as well as a whole range in between.
The world looks quite different through the eyes of different people. It doesn't pay to put one's own view of things onto others.
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#11 2007-03-15 15:34:23
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Re: plagiarism
I like your style Lynn
!!!
Nic, really? I'm so surprised. 
Other thoughts on what can be done?
A few other ideas, but one is illegal, is only feasible for the male anatomy, and has to do with a tribe, who used to use a knife on a guy right next to a tree stump that was cut off at the same level as his crotch. (They'd leave him there, so he got to decide whether he wanted to remove the knife that was pinning him onto the stump, or die from exsanguination.) 
More realistic idea is to have a Hall of Shame, where plagurists have their names exposed for all to see, so, even if, some day they decide to write their own thought out article, no one will ever trust them again.
And, in line with Laurie's idea
Are you a big fish or a little fish in this huge ocean?
Use the fishy for bait! And haul up the catch for the taxidermist. 
Hey, Laurie? Can you tell I'm an "until the bitter end" kind of gal?! LOL And strangely, I've never been plagerized, I think. Maybe they already know about my knowledge of personalized castration?!
Nah, probably, because I haven't written enough worthy of stealing it, yet. Still, knowing how long and hard I have to work on a singular article, it just peeves me to no end that so many are happy to steal other's hard work!
On the other hand, I am wondering if that article was written by a ghost writer, who had no problems selling it to more then one person, without bothering to tell them that it had been used before.
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#12 2007-03-15 15:48:27
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Re: plagiarism
atwhatcost wrote:
On the other hand, I am wondering if that article was written by a ghost writer, who had no problems selling it to more then one person, without bothering to tell them that it had been used before.
That's an important question and one i always ask both parties
usually it's pretty obvious they are not but still worth checking into
and experienced ghostwriters should understand that once they give up the right to their writing piece (as should be mentioned in their agreement) they no longer have any rights to it- including author status
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#13 2007-03-15 15:53:48
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Nic wrote:
I've been keeping my eye on you ever since you started those few posts about editing PDF's- something was fishy there...but now the truth comes out TA... or should i call you "Renee James"!!!
I said that?
Who's Renee James?
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#14 2007-03-15 21:12:56
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Re: plagiarism
Sheesh Lynn, Give me something to think about next time.
I'm with Nic - Like your style
Nic,
I had found one guy that was using my articles for his page content with no mention of our site. I e-mailed him explaining my dissatisfaction with his use of the articles and no credit. I included words of threat to notify the big three SE's and report his site as a complete plagiarism site unless he gave due credit or removed them from his site. He removed them from his site rather than give credit and never did respond to my e-mail. I monitored his site on a daily basis for about a month before the site was completely gone.
Had about a dozen other instances where I found an article and after e-mailing with my dissatisfaction about them claiming credit, about half were corrected, couple disappeared and a few were reworded in different formats as so I could not claim it as a duplicate of my own.
In General;
Given these problems, the problem with finding where our articles are used because the title can be easily changed and there are only so many ways you can word issues that relate to home security that would grab somebodies attention that they haven't already seen.
Example;
How many different ways can you tell people to lock their doors and windows?
Why you should install Smoke Detectors and Carbon Monoxide Detectors?
etc etc
Does not matter what area of the world you live in, burglaries happen and the preventative steps are all the same.
I don't want anybody to misunderstand me, I am not saying that article writing and submitting it, is not worthwhile. When I was submitting articles to article sites and e-zines I did notice an increase in traffic for the first few days after the article was published.
I just found out that article writing and most submissions to be posted was actually more work for me than the roi of my time.
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