MSN or Live doen't index my site.What can be the problem?
It doesn't matter a lot as nearly no one uses it in my country but if someday it changes?So I should solve this problem.

How old is the site?

On the other hand, the site is in another language.... I won't be able to help you.

Does anyone know if the .com SE's filter out foreign language sites? Should this guy be trying something like wwwDOTmsnDOTtu (or whatever that countries extension is suppose to be)?

It has been running since 25.12.2006.Msn has a Turkish site http://tr.msn.com and searches are made in http://search.msn.com.tr.It is not indexed in that too: http://search.msn.com.tr/results.aspx?q … amp;go.y=9
At first, I didn't do any submission to msn.About two weeks ago I submitted my site it.But nothing has happened since than.

I would wait another couple weeks since it's fairly new.

Have you gotten any links to your site yet?

It's fairly new but G and Y indexed it in the same week I opened it without submitting.Google shows only one of my links.Yahoo links are these: http://siteexplorer.search.yahoo.com/se … =seo-rd-se
Now I also put a ror sitemap.I hope it helps in some way.

Maybe the problem is backlinks: http://www.seroundtable.com/archives/007333.html

MSN  Bot at last came to my site :
I wonder what it will do.

Its a waiting game really. You ar iin google so i would relax for the time being, build up your link profile and soon enough your site will be indexed in msn. Its a game of patience when it comes to new sites unfortunately.

In real, its being or not being in MSN is unimportant for me.'cos in my country nearly no one uses MSN.Until today I created four websites and none of them got traffic from MSN.Yahoo is not used here a lot too.I only got visitors from yahoo because some of the computers' main pages are adjusted to yahoo in my university's laboratory.I create the site and another person sitting near me  whom I don't know, visits my website and does his homework from the sources on it.
In our country, the most used SE is Google probably with percentage of %85.Other people uses local Turkish search engines.

hmm, even if your main referrals are from google you should still consider msn and yahoo a factor, 15% is still possible business. I would like to see on of these local search engines Never seen a country specific SE before... interesting prospect. (i know Google can target countries specifically but its not designed "for" Australia or South Africa  etc specifically)

My statcounter account shows that %100 of the traffic to my blog from SEs came from Google.
Local search engines are not as good as google or the other bigs.Some of them does their seach on the keywords you specified before.One or two of them are good.I don't use any of them.
www.bilgi.com the Best TR SE
www.aradur.com
[url]www.arama.com
www.arama.cc
www.arama.tc
www.bazlama.com Meta Search
www.arabul.com
www.rahatbul.org
www.maxtr.com
www.netbul.com
www.tr100.net
www.sayfa.com
www.siteler.net
www.arama-tr.com
www.abaragambi.com
and there are more that uses other SEs index such as Google.

some of em look nice.... lalibela isnt there though thats never good

Yes some of them are nice but most of them are bad 'cos you have to put their banner to your site in order to be indexed by them.Than their pagerank in Google increase but your traffic not.

thats madness, and people actually go for it?

Yes that is madness, but not as much as MSN .It came to my site, ate bandwidth and went without indexing me.

Thats just wrong, MSN= Free loader. i am oddly not shocked

Hey.Ryan_steyn in which country you live in South Africa? I should do a research about comparing Turkish marriage customs with another countries customs.Is there a such site about your country's marriage customs you know?

The Eastern Cape of South Africa, you can google it but i havent seen any bodies of text related to marriage customs in South Africa

MSNBot or Bots visited my site from two different ip addresses at the same time.One is 202.96.51.148 and the other is 202.96.51.156.But both of them only visited the main page and go out.Is this normal?

do they do that everytime they visit? if so, yeah you may have a little problem on your hands... one indexed page doesnt help in the serps. If its just every now and then though, i wouldnt panic, just wait n see what happens next time.