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So... you don't think webmasters should be allowed a place where they can say how good it made them feel to dominate in their particular market, and what they did to get there?

Believe me, I'm not trying to step on your toes Gypsy, but if SR is meant to be an 'end-all' strict authority source, then the forums would be removed, no articles would be posted, and it would just be about six or seven pages of written content by one authority person... i.e. - nobody should have input cause they're all too dumb to fully understand what they just did.

I think the real point behind this is to give users real world examples backed by specifics, instead of long drawn out articles of pure speculation. And by speculation I mean... if you don't physically have a map of google's algo sitting on your desktop at this very moment, then everything said is just speculation.

I think it's a good way to get more webmasters talking. A way for them to say, "Hey, I did that exact same thing, but didn't see a whole lot of results" - "Well Bob, whats the site and let's see where the weak area's are...."

Pretty much the same thing SR is already capable doing, with the added value of real life working statistics.

Step away Stitch - don't bother me none... I am older, wiser and crankier than last we chatted.. he he.. my forum days are numbered and as such I have returned to the 'scene of the crime' to complete my circle... ( and uugghh.. what a journey it was)


As Ryan AND I have eluded to..it is NOT a true learning experience. If he has a bad day... his father dies.. it skews how the site is being managed.... with only ONE data set... it is no more than a passing fancy.. NOT a guide to ANYTHING

I stare at the in-depth analytics of more then 10 sites in no less than 8 unique markets. When I make changes (design, conversions, SEO) I can measure the effects.... I can correlate what is common to each market and to the sites as a whole .... and that's JUST ME

Get 10 more people like me... and THEN you are starting to see some real data that can be used to draw some relevant conclusions from

SO.. as long as the static goal is a spectator sport.. I am groovy dude... to be duped into believing it is a journey to create some definitive guide.. well... just look up the name Dave Pasternack.... one should be careful as to what they state.... the sharks are everywhere ( an U can trust me and my big mouth on that one)

I have said it a few ways... don't know how much clearer I can be.

I believe - not that it matters to me in the least - that it needs to be approached from a defined 'Mision Statement' so-to-speak

That's all.. in the end... I promised Nic not to be a dick - so I shall support it - or ignore it.

WOW... I just looked at your site, and your.. uh.... 'hosting service' just gave me a big ad for Girls Gone Wild - Ultimate Rush.

Not so sure that ad is going to help your conversions. hahhahaha

I looked at your website concerning your ranking problems. Sad, I can't you to pop up in any of the search engines... and you're so good at writing.

First, you'll need a real host. Some people might call me a fool, but I would think that the SE's of today simply filter out freebie sites.

Second, dump the web ring, and any other affiliate programs you have running. Big no-no in G's eye's.

Third, the code under the hood is, i dunno... I wouldn't say it's terrible since technically it's functional, however getting the content to the top might help a smidge.

Fourth, the meta keywords is a bit much. Not so necessary, but it's pretty redundant on all the pages. You could leave them for the home page, but I'd delete those lines on all the other pages.

It's a pity to see you struggle, as you are such an exceptional writer, and the angle of your site is obviously something unique. You've done so much reading, studying, etc, that it would do you much good to STOP reading, and start moving forward with the things I've mentioned.

With your writing, I'm sure you could get hits for all kinds of phrasing.

MrStitch wrote:

TheGypsy wrote:

MrStitch wrote:

WOW... I just looked at your site, and your.. uh.... 'hosting service' just gave me a big ad for Girls Gone Wild - Ultimate Rush.

Not so sure that ad is going to help your conversions. hahhahaha

When did U grow horns?? Hangin round Syndk8 too much??? bwaaa ha ha haa

http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/teufe … ey-029.gif

I tend to steer clear of places that want to use gay spelling of they're name, as the owners and users are pretty much still living in moms basement jacking off as we speak.

You can tell those gay 1337 punks what I said too. hahahahah

Oh I C - U R a bad ass now R u?

bwaaa ha ha ha ha ha

Careful I sic Ryan on ya

Last edited by TheGypsy (2007-02-08 14:08:01)

MrStitch wrote:

I looked at your website concerning your ranking problems. Sad, I can't you to pop up in any of the search engines... and you're so good at writing.

First, you'll need a real host. Some people might call me a fool, but I would think that the SE's of today simply filter out freebie sites.

When did the major SEs start doing this???

MrStitch wrote:

Second, dump the web ring, and any other affiliate programs you have running. Big no-no in G's eye's.

I also missed this announcement - do tell?



Man, a guy turns his back for a little while and the whole world goes mad..... I told ya I am cranky ( and Volatile) these days....

Methinks U lost yer mind since I know you know better than the above.... what they feeding U around here?

Last edited by TheGypsy (2007-02-08 14:16:32)

MrStitch wrote:

The free site thing is speculation, but I don't really see any free sites popping up in any serps, for any terms.... with the exception of this one stray site on yahoo in my sector. It's not entirely impossible to rank well, I would just think it would be easier if one had their own domain.

The webring - Matt clearly stated on his blog "Do not participate in web rings". No one can say whether or not he's telling the truth, but the webring doesn't do a whole lot of good in the first place anyways.. so whats the loss if it's ditched?

In this example, we have a great writer, capable of making a niche site loaded to the hilt with quality, unique content. Yet, for some reason it doesn't show up in the serps. Making those changes won't hurt it, and can only move it in a forward direction, don't you think?

For the most part with FREE or hosted apps you would likely find many amatuer webmasters.. not quite in the SEO game..would be my guess....

As for web rings... I'd always check to see if it has traffic... I am not throwing away traffic for Google. I suppose the main concern - a-la MC - would be control. You want control over who U link to. SO if it brings traffic, I'd keep it and monitor the network. Hmmmm... I wonder if they should adopt a 'nofollow' policy on Web Rings? Would solve the problem. Keep the traffic without the risk.... anyways, not a fan of them, I just wouldn't arbitrarily dump them without due analysis

MrStitch wrote:

Aside from the SEO aspect of freebie websites, wouldn't you agree that there is a lower level of trust placed on those sites vs a paid domain?

naaww... just a lower /knowledge/budget/exoerience of a freebie owner... that's all. Noo need for ad-hoc thinking... ' I washed my car - it rained today - it must have rained BECAUSE I washed my car '

It is related in the market segment NOT the SEs algo. The quality of the hosting doesn't enter into it.

I dare say, I occasionally see one in the SERPs and I attribute it to being a sub-domain and thus getting some love from the CORE domain (which has authority)... SO, it could actually help.

I have even had the argument lately that G puts more value on domains that are registered for 5-10 years.... bull pucky. Matt knows all about the run on .69c .info domains right now in the BH world. SO what, for $60 I can get some added Google Love? Sounds like a plan to me... that's a drop in the bucket for most of them...

Too easy to manipulate....

Sorry.. that was actually a little Mod Rewrite issue - he he... baadd htaccess on Baaad SEO

All fixed - thanks

http://www.huomah.com/search-engines/se … art-i.html

Roxane wrote:

Thanks!  Can't wait to check out the baaaad SEO!

It's a new series methinks.. whenever I see BS.. I shall rant on it..

That first one is fomr a SEO companies website (for the most part) that my gang at Verve has to work with... started trying to tell them about SEO this and htat.. he he.. Poor fools didn't check things out I guess.. cause if they knew I was the owner... he he... probably would kept their mouths shut... he he....

At least I am nice enough not to 'name names' -