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ittower · 2006-12-01 10:37:00

Hi everybody,
I have question regarding buying web site traffic.

Once i tried to buy it and i thought that it will bring me new customers. In statistics i seen that all visitors came from different unique IP addresses, but i had no any result from business point of view.

Later i found one web site that offers to get money for web site visiting. You have to only create your account and open page on they web site and interner explorer will visit in frame different web sites that they have in they database. And .... you have money and other people pay for traffic.

Technically it is waste of money from business point of view, but what about Alexa rank traffic?
What if i want to sell ad on my web site and i want to show to my potential clients how my web site is promoted and popular? Can i increase web site traffic rank in Alexa by buying traffic from such cheaters?

Nic · 2006-12-01 10:45:05

if you really want to pay money to increase traffic why don't u spend it on good old fashion SEO or link building or article writting or etc, etc, etc...

if you want to part with your $ that bad i'll send you my paypal address and at least one of us will be happy lol

also remember alexa rating is a 3 month avergage...so a traffic boost lasting only a few days won't help all that much in the bigger picture (unless you're site is ranked 100,000+)

if you want to sell ads on your site why not give away some freebies or heavily discounted ones at first to build up a clientel... then IF you can show them results you'll get repeat business

ittower · 2006-12-01 12:25:11

Nic wrote: if you really want to pay money to increase traffic why don't u spend it on good old fashion SEO or link building or article writting or etc, etc, etc...

Hi Nic, i just want touch web traffic boosters services. I have been spending money on all stuff you listed above.
The question was about increasing traffic rank as help to business at first steps of web site promotion. Lets say that i want launch business in short terms and i have already spent some amout money for SEO, link building, articles but i will take time before web site will be popular. But i have to show something to clients. I know .... - it is a sime kind of cheating, but i seen such tricks in internet.

Another reason why i am asking about it is that i want to know everything about business promotion in internet and different promotion ways, so:

Will traffic boost service help to business on first steps? Or - it just waste of money in anyway?
What do you think about it?

(so please do not say about all promotions ways, just discuss current subject)

Mutilated1 · 2006-12-01 15:24:18

it might help your Alexa rank, but unless you have some way to turn Alex rank into money pay for traffic is going to be a waste of time and money

Nic · 2006-12-01 15:29:06

just to make sure i understand exactly what you aim to do...

you want paid traffic to increase your stats so they look better to potential advertisers?

if that statement is correct, besides the fact that i think it's unethical (now that we got that out of the way blinka ) i think it's also going to backfire on you

lets say you chose a paid service (careful i would think 99% of such services are frauds anyways)... and you do managed to "hook" a few sponsors, you better make sure they get the ROI they expected on those "inflated" numbers or you can kiss that repeat business goodbye

yes u may make good $ in the short run but it'll catch up to you

my suggestion (which is the same as before) is to give some free or heavily discounted advertising. Doing so will cost you nothing (apart from a bit of time and some space on your sites). If you're then successful at giving those sponsors good results, you can apporach them for paid advertising.

by doing so you'll be able to build good relationships that will have your sponsors hanging around

otherwise you may find yourself looking for a new "sucker" every month to buy into your hyped up figures

just my thoughts...

PS checked my paypal and didnt see u make a deposit angry

dann · 2006-12-01 21:11:21

Not only would this be a silly waste of time, money and bandwidth. If you publish Google ads on the site in question you will surely get banned sooner or later. Probably as soon as your account reaches $99.50 furious
My 2cents.
Dan

mobtex · 2006-12-02 05:51:05

alexa rank is just mythware and not worth the investment, time and money would be better spent building links and obtaining organic traffic, a result of this will be an increased alexa rank

ask sitereference about alexa, it's been mentioned on here somewhere before that sr has a stonking alexa but it doesn't compare to the actual levels of traffic, it's just that a lot of people who visit here have the alexa spybar installed so it's figures can be manipulated.

install the alexa toolbar and check your site once a day, that's enough to help build your ranking but if you really want to waste some money you can always send some to my beer fund.

excess000 · 2006-12-04 08:02:30

You must remember that there is no quick fix in this game - as by nature the web is dynamic.

SEO is in effect like quality lifecycle management - you need to (either yourself or in collaboration with an SEO consultant) constantly re-evaluate and improve on all facets of the site as a whole.

Remember also that essentially that much of the initial sucess of a website is down to the web designer.
I would suggest that if you are really keen to get good rankings and you obviously are aware of a number of this industry's aspect - that you go back to basics and fully define and plan for all areas of the website.

TheGypsy · 2006-12-04 08:16:18

mobtex wrote:
mythware ------ the alexa spybar .

Mob that is rich... my first laugh of the day...kudows there M8

excess000 wrote:
Remember also that essentially that much of the initial sucess of a website is down to the web designer.

WOW... that's a loaded one.. Why would U say that? I am constantly trying to talk clients back from the brink (with my web development firm) of being to flashy or graphics heavy... it is well known that simpler sites do better. The average user wants to 'get in' get it done' and 'get out' again....
They really don't care for the graphics per se...

Also, WTF is a pretty site with no traffic? Another mis-nomer... the 'build it and they will come' theory...
hmmmmmmm...interesting statement there....

Torsten · 2006-12-04 14:43:20

mobtex wrote:
alexa rank is just mythware and not worth the investment, time and money would be better spent building links and obtaining organic traffic, a result of this will be an increased alexa rank

Too true only! Really, why is everybody so scared about Alexa Ranks? (mythware:) Alexa Toolbar had been detected as spyware by almost every anti spyware tool I used... --

computer

And more: I don´t even care too much about my Google Rankings as well... just building good sites for users will do most and best SEO in the long run... anyhow I almost don´t care, it´s an important factor though, what I mean is: don´t spend too much time and thinking about it. The time is better invested in building good content...!

And about link buying. It can help your rankings (both Google, Alexa and not to forget the invisible rankings of Yahoo and MSN Search as well...) But as I see it, most links are far toooooooo expensive. The prices in this market have gone mad recently.

Relax a little, and give it another smooth move...!

bath

Last edited by Torsten (2006-12-04 14:44:07)

dann · 2006-12-04 15:10:42

Torsten wrote:
And about link buying. It can help your rankings (both Google, Alexa and not to forget the invisible rankings of Yahoo and MSN Search as well...) But as I see it, most links are far toooooooo expensive. The prices in this market have gone mad recently.

I agree completely! But the real downside to link buying is that it is only a temporary fix, that is unless you plan on making it a long term investment.
Better off with a ppc campaign. Start small and as you learn the ropes slowly start ramping up your campaign.
IMO link buying is a complete waste unless you have a two day old website and want to get indexed quickly.
Dan
I also wanted to add that the SEs are getting wise to this. A PR7 page with links in the footer that change on a weekly or monthly basis looks fishy. Given Google's mighty computing power I don't believe this won't go the way of meta keyword stuffing very soon.

Last edited by dann (2006-12-04 15:32:30)

Ryan_steyn · 2006-12-05 00:45:18

he he.... my turn tongue
I agree that link buying is a quick fix and a long term waste of time, in my personal experience i have discovered that ranking should always be in the back of your head... links cost a lot when they offer you a link to a well ranked - not always well indexed - but well ranked site, get your site well optimized, which will help get it well ranked, use good clean human content to get you through the indexes (and build traffic), also helping your ranks. You really DONT need to pay for a good site, my site gets better by the day and i have never paid a cent for it.

Make people want to link to your site, it takes a bit longer but they may even be willing to charge you less if your site isnt one of 2 million on Alexa and page ranked 2 or less.

You cant deny the reality of rankings... maybe you can ignore PR but other than that you need to look good to the nerds who will probably test your site b4 checking past the home page. First three pages in google guarentee organic traffic if there is a big market for your product, decent seo will get you there. Organic link traffic, you are either gonna havte pay for their links or bring something helpful to the table.

Too true only! Really, why is everybody so scared about Alexa Ranks?

Who dare fear the ALexa Rank? the alexa rank is easy to manipulate and the equivelant of a prissy teenager, hang in the right crowd with the right accesories and she will love you.

Not like google.... that is fear. curious yikes

johncricket · 2006-12-08 08:17:14

Ryan_steyn

Hi

How do you step-by-step manipulate AlexaPagerank?

Also, alexapagerank is so unreliable:
on 10 websites we are developing, we noticed on our internal statistic software, that the site with -let's say- 1000 visits a day performs worst on Alexa than the site with 10 visits a day!!! and it's only the iceberg top of many amazing staff...

Ryan_steyn · 2006-12-11 00:15:50

1st - download the Alexa toolbar....
2nd - make sure you visit and click through your sites at least once a day
3rd - tell your clients or whoever else visits your site to install the alexa toolbar
4th - sit back and watch

Thats it in a nutshell really. It is unreliable, so dont put to much faith in it, i personally enjoy it because it shows more life than PR, its a feel good thing tongue

johncricket · 2006-12-12 07:32:23

Hi Ryan

Thanks for your advices. We do not care much about Alexa toolbar and the main reason is: it's a spyware, some antivirus software consider it a trojan

there's a big debate about alexa, however, we still do not know a real reliable analytic tool which can measure the real ranks on the internet.

Do you, or anyone else know alternative alexa ranking tool?

regards
JC

mobtex · 2006-12-12 07:37:30

there's a few out there built up from isp data but you need to exchange $ for data

Ryan_steyn · 2006-12-13 04:42:35

yip... its all about the money, i use mstats through my isp (very accurate) , but it costs money tongue

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