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laurie_m wrote:
Some interesting stuff there.
Aside from the "last" statistic you can reasonably also deduce the trend fairly well. My little rule of thumb is that average screen resolutions are increasing about a pixel a day.. so if your page is only 760 pixels wide, it will eventually look like a vertical band-aid on half the monitors. More than ever, developers need to consider a fluid design.
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I mix my css and tables together for my gwema site... is it all that bad an idea?
Lots of people mix them. Mine is very much CSS based. But if I can achieve something with CSS in two hours or a table in a half a minute, it gets a table. Until later when I figure out the CSS version...
The common response is "tables are for tabular data" or the more row/column - like your ambition is, the more suitable a table is for getting there.
CSS is slightly easier on page weight and affords many more options for altering things incrementally later. That said, if using a table or two keeps you from throwing yourself off a bridge...
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fair enough, i tried using css aligning and all that and went nearly mad... only nearly though. So tables were my saving grace, i think an experiment website is order for next few evenings 
I always thought tables had a negative influence on bots?
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When i first started i was reading every article and tutorial i could get my hands on, and it was mentioned that tables are a bad idea... i found it months ago, never bookmarked the page, but like most things it stuck in my head. Frames and tables, totally seperate things but both are as bad as eachother. The frames thing i read about many times after, never heard much about em again but because they were a no no it stuck. It was the same article that said question marks were dead ends for bots.
Im jumping on a limb here but i guess i was wrong to believe it? i used tables still but tried my hardest not to.
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Since Laurie seems pretty well centered 
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It's frames I think that cause bots to "hop a rail" in indexing.
There's lots of tables out there.. Quite a number on the same webpage, which is more the problem. Tables within tables within tables, etc. - I'll stop there, but some designs don't. That what cause things to chug a little slowly.
Basically, If you lean towards CSS and try not use tables. I would concern myself with something else like that "breaking up, car barfing" thing you have going. That needs some attention 
If you are trying to do what I think you are, I use this method...
Code: html
<html>
<body>
<div id="wrapper">
<p>some text</p>
</div>
</body>
</html>
Code: css
body { text-align: center; }
div#wrapper { margin: auto; width: 780px; text-align: left; }
In theory setting the margins to auto and the width to 780px should be enough, but IE doesn't interpret it correctly. Therefore you have to take advantage of IE's bad use of the text-align to center everything, then readjust it later on...
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Basically, If you lean towards CSS and try not use tables. I would concern myself with something else like that "breaking up, car barfing" thing you have going. That needs some attention
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No worries, i think i got over it after college Ive been in a steady one for about 2 years now... we puked out of a bus window with her.. and alls good.
So... dodge the frames (i hate em anyway - i tried em once bu realised there was to much happening in a small space) and i rarely go further than a table within a table.
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