I wonder..........

Having a degree in physics and having taught myself web development (as no one wants physicists unless you want to teach), I wonder what it would be like to go back to uni and study something I'm already very good at........always fancied a masters........

EXACTLY!!! Its like cheating in your exams.... finally... a chance to go back to school... be smarter than the skinny know-it-all and have an income that beats the hell outa burger king! What are the chances that the schooling system has turned into becoming good at something... making a career outa it... then getting a degree. what a twist.

I'd like to get myself the degree as well, as so many companies out here want the degree, at least the ones that pay the good salaries.  Until that point, I just consider it a hobby of mine.

Northie wrote:

then I found a german site all about HTML. I can't find it anymore but it was excellent.

Hi,

was it http://de.selfhtml.org?

I remember, I started with a student-version of dreamweaver. I didn´t had a flick what is was about.

One day I saw a book about it in the public library and gave it a try - voila, my first site was finished one week later.

greetz,
ak

Damn, it would be so much easier if it wasnt all in German, my respect to all you who learnt from that tutorial

Ryan_steyn writes"
EXACTLY!!!  Its like cheating in your exams

It is kinda nice when you already know all the answers!  I had a class where I was the only one who actually understood the work, and was even able to figure it out better that the instructor! At the end of the course, the instructor gave me some books she bought on the subject because she would never teach that class again.  Made me feel kinda special! 

Don't get me wrong - not all of my classes were a breeze.

vivid wrote:

I don't recommend relying on simply what a WYSIWYG program creates without understanding the code it has built.  It doesn't matter if you learn by taking classes, buying a book, or reading online. It doesn't matter if you use a WYSIWYG (free or paid)  or hand code as long as you understand the HTML and code behind it.  That's the only way you'll know if it is clean code or not and how to fix it when it breaks.  When you rely 100% on a program, you must work within the limitations of the program - when you rely 100% on what you can learn, you are only limited to your own imagination.

I'm a High School Drop-out with a GED from the mid-1960's and never could stand being "in a class" ... I, like many more millions, do alot better by "hands-on", especially for hand-coding ... that's how I got started years ago in COBOL; the original language that got Billy-Bob Gates on his way to unforetold wealth.

Don't wanna know HTML...

get your hands dirty. get in with the craft. actaully, my hands are lucky in that they're clean and don't do what i'd call 'real work'

i have no formal qualifications unless you count a sew-on badge that says i can swim 25m or a certificate say i jumped out a plane from 12,500ft. i made my first web page on word and now i code to standards. selv-tort..

ironically, i've been told by a colleage from years ago who's now a lecturer i should go through the process of gaining the basic entry level teaching qualification so i can go and talk technical gubbins to students. talk for money, easy. i did commercial radio for years before i had my pentium inplant. i'm fluent and trained in talking trash4cash.

it's just not me although the up yours to my grammar school teachers would be priceless!

a quick way to bypass the whole educational system is to become part of it. if i lectured it would make me more than qualified to consult and consultants cost the earth, they just need clients who can afford them.

if i could to that with the number of times i bunked off school i'd pmswrotflmbo

it isnt hard to out smart a bunch of students though, i may only be 20 but i had always been more logically inclined than my class mates, Many people lack the ability to grasp other languages... eg: math, html, java... it just goes right over their heads, Delphi did that to me when i tried for the first time in matric, but to hell with delphi... im a web boy now.

I would love to go back to high school and take that rediculous group of nerds who built the rather slow and boring intranet for a lesson in what web design is really about... that would be a experience worth paying for. But one can never go back and unfortunately those guys probably went on to college to study web design and are now spreading the lack of creativity that haunts the web or have become drug addicted dj's (quite common down here)

What we can do though... is go to college... be the best student (cause there isnt much  a textbook knows that you dont) and get something to make clients pay more... and rub in the face of high school shmucks....

i think i lost my place.... oh well... get dirty!!! play in code!!! it may be so easy you dont feel any smarter... but other people will think you are a bladdy genius!!!