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#1 2006-10-13 10:57:38

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Is Affiliate Marketing for Fools? by Richard Keir

No, but anyone caught reading his entire ruse is, and I certainly feel like one now! No! Wait! I'm not a fool for this! I was reading the article wondering why he wasn't teaching us anything we didn't already know and taking so long to say nothing! I suspected it when I decided to go to his "web site," and I was right. I'm not the fool!  Anyone who reads what he says in the article and then buys his "back end" from his really long pitch would be the fool! Keir writes with forked keyboard! (Ummm, some old sayings just don't update well to the computer generation. LOL)

Compare his article to his ruse...umm, I mean sales pitch:
Article: Make money affiliate marketing. Make 1000's per month fast and easy. Top affiliates make 2000-3000 per day. Any of this sound familiar? Maybe I exaggerated a little, but you've heard the song, right? (And he debunks it here.)

Web site: Warning: You're about to discover the affiliate secrets that the gurus have been keeping from you. The methods the real super affiliates use to make $500 per day, finally revealed by the one guy they trusted to keep quiet...

b]Article:[/b] You can not get rich overnight (except, maybe, through inheriting, gambling or theft). Repeat after me: There is no such thing as a free lunch. There is no certain, easy, fool-proof way to get rich fast for the average person.

Web site: A complete affiliate formula that has nothing to do with anything else you have ever read, and that will allow you to make at least $5,000 per month by promoting products you don't even own. My "bombshell" formula is pretty much foolproof. It takes you step by step through the whole process, guiding you every inch of the way until you make the same $2,000 per day that I make.

b]Article:[/b] Now, if affiliate marketing were all that easy, those numbers would be a lot different wouldn't they?. So why is affiliate marketing pushed on newbies? It is a nice low cost entry point. Kind of like a free sample from a drug dealer. When it turns out to be just a bit harder than anticipated, why then there are courses, ebooks, tools, other forms of marketing - backends galore. For the sharks to sell to the increasingly desperate.

Web site: Affiliate Project X - Secrets Exposed
In September 2006, 12 affiliates got rich
...and now ...it's your turn to do it...

b]Article:[/b] Maybe that's overly cynical - probably very few marketers are doing this consciously. They may recognize, understand and profit from the reality, but for them, the better an affiliate does, the more money they make. But maybe not so much better that the affiliate no longer needs courses, ebooks, etc, promising ever better, easier, faster money? Are you getting the idea that maybe most of those ebooks and courses aren't telling you everything you need to know?

Web site: Quit your job and finally crack the ClickBank affiliate code and unleash untold riches...
• Learn the top secret methods used by the super affiliates. Step-by-step techniques explained in raw detail - all inside...
• What the guru's will never tell you...
• Copy the super affiliates and find the hottest products to promote as an affiliate
• Massive pack: everything there is to know about affiliate marketing, for beginners and advanced marketers. Be prepared....
• ...AND much, much more! Released on the web for the first time... and possibly the last...

b]Article:[/b] Let's say you are a relatively regular type person without a huge amount of experience or a lot of money to invest. Can you actually make money doing affiliate marketing? Or is it really a foolish thing to try? First, go back up there and reread that fourth paragraph (no free lunch, remember?) a few times. If we've put that easy, instant overnight riches things out of our heads, then if you are willing to learn a few things, not rocket science either, and if you are willing to work, then even if you have no significant money to invest, the answer is yes. You can actually make money. It is not instant, but it can be faster than you might expect. It is not easy, though again, it doesn't require genius, actual regular people can do it.

Web site: In a matter of days, I watched as relative newbies and guys who were treading ClickBank water began to transform before my eyes. A hundred bucks here, a handful of sales there... and then,... one of my test subjects caught fire and did $400 in a single day.
Quickly, they all began to realize the enormity of what they were sitting on. And the revolution started to catch speed. By day 21 I added up the figures: my test projects, hand-picked for their lack of success as affiliates, had collectively done $643/day in their final week

b]Article:[/b] I don't have the space to spell it all out here.

No kidding! You’ve already taken nine paragraphs to tell us what we already know – and, of course, this isn’t really an article, it’s a condensed version of your sales pitch from the link in your bio.

I know there is no such thing as bad press, but, I sure hope there is such a thing as no profit from teaching potential customers why they shouldn't trust you!!!

My wish: to see only real articles, when I've got the time to learn new ideas. This doesn't qualify, nor does it qualify as a 4 star article!

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#2 2006-10-13 11:17:58

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Re: Is Affiliate Marketing for Fools? by Richard Keir

yeah - terrible article

I hope you rated it down.

Site Reference should have a zero rating , because for some articles like this the lowest rating of 1 isn't low enough


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#3 2006-10-13 11:25:41

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Re: Is Affiliate Marketing for Fools? by Richard Keir

A door to door salesman came knocking the other day....

He gets commission from selling me gas from british gas. His job is to stand there and talk me to death and persuade me to buy. It's a tough job, but he enjoys it, and enjoys his commissions even more.

The online affiliate marketer is nothing more than a freelance sales rep like the man selling me gas. The methods are different but the workload is the same, and the rewards can be huge as well.

The door to door sales man needs to think on his feet, turn potential customers' negative thoughts into positive sales points in an instant.

The online affiliate marketer has time to think of his sales pitches, fine tune them, seek out customers that are coming to him.

Two very different mind sets are needed to accomplish what is essentially the same task.

If someone asked you if you wanted to go into sales (door to door, cold calling, etc) as a career change, would you do it?

Why would you choose the internet as a medium over the telephone or face to face position?

Point is - people selling affiliate products wouldn't be doing so if they were doing as well as they wanted to - they would start a business, start employing their own staff to use all this knowledge, software and expertise they have developed. they would make even more money than selling their product to the ignorant.

So why do they do it? Because they know it doesn't work, at least not in the way they sell it. These schemes need investment - that may be time or money, and you will be compensated accordingly.


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#4 2006-10-14 12:07:50

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Re: Is Affiliate Marketing for Fools? by Richard Keir

Mutilated.
Good idea! Never thought of 0! I've read many crummy articles that, at least, made points. They deserve 1s. This one doesn't even deserve a 1!

Northie,
Ummm, yes, actually! I would, and have, cold called on the phone for companies that hired me, and then for my own home-business. (OK, so the later were "cool calls," not cold calls, since I knew, at least, that I was calling small businesses collected from my local Yellow Pages, in services that I had skill in helping. LOL) And, obviously, being willing to sell my business' services, including marketing materials, I needed, occasionally, to go to the potential customer's business and think how to close on my feet. (If I was there, they were already interested.)

That being said, actually, I have to disagree with you about affiliate marketers making lousy business owners. You're forgetting a large section of folks, who need to make money through the Internet -- those who have to work at home. Although I'm sure that I don't know all of the people in that group, I do know a couple subsets of that group -- parents, who need to stay home with their kids for a variety of reasons, and the disabled. Sometimes our skill sets don't include anything that can be done when you have to sell directly or when you need to be with customers to do your skill, Selling on Ebay requires lifting, packing and shipping, and, occasionally, needing plenty of space to store the stuff until it is sold. SMC's shipping time is too slow, and it cost too much for something that gives no guarantees of working.

Frankly, unless the person looking for an income is knowledgable enough to write and sell a book occasionally, affiliate marketing is one of the few things that seems doable for many of us, who are stuck with less then ideal situations -- given, of course, we gain the knowledge before hand, not to be duped. On that part, we agree. blinka

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#5 2006-10-14 14:15:38

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Re: Is Affiliate Marketing for Fools? by Richard Keir

atwhatcost wrote:

I have to disagree with you about affiliate marketers making lousy business owners.

I have been misinterpreted (I was wondering to myself, 'I never said that'!)

I Was talking about the people and products that are sold to those who want to be affiliate marketers.

atwhatcost wrote:

Sometimes our skill sets don't include anything that can be done when you have to sell directly or when you need to be with customers to do your skill

And like wise many people don't have the skill set to be internet marketers, or internet affiliate marketers. It almost makes me sick when I see over priced, over rated, piss-poor products designed to let Mr or Mrs Joe Average become an affiliate marketing guru overnight.

That was my point! lol


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#6 2006-10-14 17:34:52

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Re: Is Affiliate Marketing for Fools? by Richard Keir

Northie wrote:

atwhatcost wrote:

I have to disagree with you about affiliate marketers making lousy business owners.

I have been misinterpreted (I was wondering to myself, 'I never said that'!)

I Was talking about the people and products that are sold to those who want to be affiliate marketers.

atwhatcost wrote:

Sometimes our skill sets don't include anything that can be done when you have to sell directly or when you need to be with customers to do your skill

And like wise many people don't have the skill set to be internet marketers, or internet affiliate marketers. It almost makes me sick when I see over priced, over rated, piss-poor products designed to let Mr or Mrs Joe Average become an affiliate marketing guru overnight.

That was my point! lol

Ooooooooooooh! Nevermind! In that case, we agree 100%! LOL
Sorry for misreading! rodna

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