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#21 2006-10-12 03:55:52

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how to see the top bids keywords?

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#22 2006-10-12 04:21:57

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making 1800$ per month off google ads, what's the problem?/

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#23 2006-10-12 04:24:40

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if you think $1800 a month from google ads in enough, then you are very behind in this world
my target is $18000

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#24 2006-10-12 04:55:19

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maria99 wrote:

Normally, i would like to know how much an average ppl make through adsense /per day
So that i can keep my target to that and how many websites they use to make such revenue
last ques - Si it better to focus on 3-4 websites to make revenue or to keep on incrasing the websites to make a revenue

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took me about a year to make my first $100 with AdSense, but that was secondary to the site's main function (was a hobby site) and the $100 paid for the hosting.

On a new venture that I'm looking at which is in the affiliate marketing line I aim to make $0.30 per page, per day through AdSense alone. I have nearly 700 pages across 20 sites which will grow with time.

Experience has shown me a CTR between 10% and 20% and I'm aiming at $0.30 per click, so i only need 10 visitors to each page, each day.

I get top bid keywords from AdWords

I then look at daily searches for these keywords and filter out terms with little or no searches. then i filter out anything below a certain bid price, then I use some software I wrote myself, based on years of research in SEO, to determine the 'competitiveness' of each keyword.

I then have a list of high search, high paying, low competition keywords to get content for.

You can also naturally increase the bid price of the ads on your page by increasing the CTR, which can be done by not putting AdSense on your home page, or on any forum or community pages.

Also for CTR - trick is not to over do it with the ads, here are three sample pages from one of my sites that uses images to affect the 'eye movement heat map' and are completely within G-ToS
[http://www.healthfitnessarticlesweb.com/]
[http://www.healthfitnessarticlesweb.com/Beauty/]
[http://www.healthfitnessarticlesweb.com/Beauty/how-to-get-rid-of-cellulite/]

You will see on my home page I have no AdSense, the second has only AdSense and the third has 3 revenue sources - AdSense, Amazon and ClickBank.

I also translate my pages into 9 other languages, and by setting the 'lang' attribute Google will show adverts in the tarhet language - straight away 10 times as many pages!

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#25 2006-10-12 05:00:42

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maria99 wrote:

if you think $1800 a month from google ads in enough, then you are very behind in this world
my target is $18000

Expectations are too high for your level of experiance with AdSense

With the questions you're asking here I am very surprised your making $60 per day.

If you have been sold the 'AdSense will make you rich overnight' concept - you've been had

You may want to see this post
http://forums.site-reference.com/topic/ … ess-Model/

Here's a quote from Joel Comm (sometimes called Mr AdSense)

I'm always telling people that AdSense is not a
get-rich-quick scheme. It's a get rich scheme.
You have to be prepared to work hard, have
patience and even invest some money if you want
to create an online publishing business that
brings in good AdSense revenues.

Best of luck in your ventures

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#26 2006-10-12 07:30:55

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maria99 - to make 1800 off the internet is more than many people visiting tis forum could wish for, let alone off just adsense.

I think your arrogant responses will see assistnce from members dwindle.

I gave you excellent advise which you threw back, but you want to make 10x what you are earning now.

Sorry, no magic bullets here. Just helpful advice from those who have been around the net a long time.

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maria99 wrote:

You have made a good point that is to target keywords.. i am definetly doing so but i am not able to get the right track. For eg - take a word QWE
How many articles i can make based on this word only and how many links exchanges i can do based on this keyword.. this way it would take lot of time in selecting keywords and targeting them one by one.

There is work involved in earning money from AdSense and this is part of it

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this way it would take lot of time in selecting keywords and targeting them one by one.

And doing this will make you the $18 000 / month you seek - no one's going to pay you for doing nothing!


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#28 2006-10-12 21:48:27

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[I also translate my pages into 9 other languages, and by setting the 'lang' attribute Google will show adverts in the tarhet language - straight away 10 times as many pages!

Hi!
Can you explain this in detail.. i am interested to know how to convert into other languages and what benefit google gives for it.

why are you people so surprised about $18000. i know many of my friends making and i am not a newbie.. i know it would take time as much as 2 years, i wasn't saying 2 months.

Further matte, i haven't made any comments on your previous suggestion. It was good.

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#29 2006-10-12 23:00:27

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Ok I am a tad lost. If this is all about making money via AS a-la MFA then why in the name of all that's holy don't ya'll go BH and be done with it?

18k/mnth is quite reasonable within a short time frame.

Why all the 'pretence' of a site of value if it's all about the $$$? Just scrape and spam, No?

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Just scrape and spam, No?

there are better and more profitable ways of doing it


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#31 2006-10-13 04:00:36

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Hi Northie

Can you please explain how to use that language script and what benefits can be made from that

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#32 2006-10-13 04:51:21

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Hi Northie

Can you please explain how to use that language script and what benefits can be made from that

Maria

I use something called translationgold(.com)

Benefits - 10 times as many pages, ass spiderable be the SEs. Your pages will show up in differect countries, in different languages and display ads in the target language.

that means, in an ideal world (which this one is not), you could go from 300 visitors per day to 3000; and from $60 to $600 per day

But the number of AdSense Ads and the bid price in these other countries may be lower than in the English Speaking World

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#33 2006-10-13 09:06:05

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Northie wrote:

thegyspsy wrote:

Just scrape and spam, No?

there are better and more profitable ways of doing it

Ha ha ha ha.... that's a hoot North., If there was, then the Black Hat/Spammer commnity would be all over it. You may want to start some research into BH, join a community or 2 (if YOU DARE.... lol)

There are few outside of 'Jeremy Shoemaker' (a.k.a. Shoemoney) or Marcus of 'PlentyoFish' fame.  (with a thumbs up to ProBlogger) that certainly achieve some lofty numbers (can you say $1 Million per month?) .

I am not entirely convinced about the legitimacy of the techniques as I have seen SM around at some BH haunts....

For the most part, there are a TON of folks playing with 'scrapng and spamming', as well as IP delievery, Cloaking and other 'tools of the trade'

OBVIOUSLY this is not the way yer goin about it, but is it RAMPANT and I dare say more high earners are using BH than not.... it's just the way it goes man... if peple can cheat the system they will.

I am wise in these ways grasshopper… he he..(Dave changes Hats)

Anyways here’s the DROOL factor for ya kiddies (from Marcus)

http://plentyoffish.wordpress.com/files/2006/06/plentyoffishcheque2.jpg

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#34 2006-10-13 09:12:12

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Hi Northie

I guess it's not yet so popular yet, as many big players have still not discovered

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#35 2006-10-13 10:10:25

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(can you say $1 Million per month?)

I can say £1 Million per month (target for next year) big_smile

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#36 2006-10-13 10:13:50

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hi angel eyes

waht do you say about the best strategy and what has worked for you?

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#37 2006-10-13 10:21:16

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maria99 wrote:

hi angel eyes

waht do you say about the best strategy and what has worked for you?

I'm not in the MFA game, sorry. roll

Northie seems to enjoy his affiliate marketing and hasn't seemed to annoy thegyspsy yet. think he may be your best bet, but I feel he's keeping his hand close to his chest about something......... blinka

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#38 2006-10-13 11:10:48

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Once again...kinda like my PR rants.. I am not necesarily AGAINST making $$ from AdSense. IF you have built a great site that serves a purpose to the larger internet cimmunity and want to recoup a few $$ from your hard efforts... I say GREAT.

That is fine

If you're creating a site with the EXPRESSED GOAL of getting clicks, it is a slippery slope from where I am sitting.

I have no issues with Affiliate stuff, as long as there is more to the site (resources, articles, tools). If it is just page after page of affiliate stuff... well same as the above MFA attitude from me.

I have studied Internet Marketing from Black to Whie Hat and all shades in between. I have seen what true Web Spammers do and it ain't pretty.

Make a site of value... that's what is of interest to me. From what I can tell North ain't the spammy type. Really, I doubt there are ANY Black Hatters hanging out here... they have their own haunts...

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Sorry to ask a different question - is it worth having your own affiliate programme? Does it generate any worthwhile income? - I have a gift site. Would this be a good way of marketing the site?

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#40 2007-01-22 02:42:00

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Peter wrote:

Sorry to ask a different question - is it worth having your own affiliate programme? Does it generate any worthwhile income? - I have a gift site. Would this be a good way of marketing the site?

Peter

Having an affiliate network of your own is nothing more than your own sales team.

They'll expect a % of your profit margin. The hardest part is deciding what price to sell your goods at, and what % of each sale will go to your affiliates.

Affiliates sell on your behalf, they bring in customers you wouldn't normally have, so your net profits should go up.


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