Hi everyone,

this is the fist time i am trying theis place. I have been reading the newsletter often, so i think i'll get some help over here

I have some websites adsense based
I am not able to get a good traffic. It's been few months for some and a year for some

I have done link exchange and got PR 5 for many, but the trafic remains to 200-300 visitors a day for probably all sites.
i update blogs daily . submit lot of articles everywhere possible

still no results..
SO what should be done now..
what are the other good methods to boost traffic...?
all sites have fresh content and are updated regularly.. so i am not able to get the problem

Any one there for suggestions and tips

Thanx
Maria

Dear maria99,

Welcome to the forums!

Since you are doing many things right,
I assume that your niches are too
narrow or too competitive.

If your content hit personal interest
I suggest you to try a Tell-a-Friend
form.

Another great way is relevant forums.

If you have the budget then go for
Pay Per Click or Pay Per Impression
advertising like Google AdWords
and AdBrite

If you getting a regular stream of traffic
then negotiate with established companies
in your niche for sponsorships which will
allow you to try some paid advertising.

webgaya.

hi
i have tell a friend and forums as well.
both are going good
my bookmark website rate is 30%

i can't use adwords as i am earning from adnsense on my site. It's just health informational websites

Since you have ventured online
my advice is to go Offline.
How about putting a notice in
Pharmacies and conducting
a speech in your local club?

webgaya.

that was a worst reply
i said i am earning through google ads

maria99 wrote:

still no results..

maria99 wrote:

i said i am earning through google ads

Not bad for 'no results'

Maybe the type of site your looking making peaks at 300 visitors/day

My advice would be to expand your keyword research, look for keywords that have

high number of searches
high CPC in google
low competition

Software like 'AdSense Accelerator' will help you achieve the first two points. For competition you'll have to make your own mind up - I can point you in the right direction if you want

Then, with all your nice new keywords start making some more sites -

Simple example:

If there are 10 sites in my niche, and I have one of them then I have a 10% market share
If I make another site then I have 2 sites out of 11 (~18%) - I've almost doubled my market share by competing against myself.

Don't fall foul of duplicate content penalties, etc. there is work involved in the affiliate marketing business, and it will pay off.

Hi!
That was good
There is no niche segment left these days.. people are just coming up with everything.
Actually i made sites that are of my interest.... ya i agree they fall in competition.

"Don't fall foul of duplicate content penalties, etc. there is work involved in the affiliate marketing business, and it will pay off."

You mean duplicate content doesn't counts?

I would also like to know 1 more thing
like in ezin we post so many articles
and the people post these articles in their website.
doesn't google count them as duplicate content and start ignoring that website , if lot of articles are there??

Maria

Duplicate content -

Simply put - If a Search Engine finds the same content on two different sites then one will be dropped form the SERPs - usually the second one it finds.

If you are running an ezine and people are free to take your content -

Make sure the SEs have indexed your page before you let people take the articles.

Most ezine / article directories state that the articles may not be changed in any way - this is a difficult issue to comment on:

1 -
If the content is changed then the people taking the content have a free resource of 'starting points' to build their site with, but the risk of duplicate content is reduced, but not eliminated.

2 -
If the content is not changed then the people taking the articles are likely to get dropped for duplicate content - but you might be as well!

Assuming you don't let them change the content, then:

1 -
The articles you let people put on their own sites should include a 'bio' that contains a link back to your site [eg. this article was first published by.....link-here.....]

2 -
As their duplicate content gets dropped from the SERPs they will keep coming back to your site to get new articles and the cycle continues - you build up a large store of articles and the people taking them are giving you lots of medium quality one way links back to your site.

Hope this helps

maria99 wrote:

that was a worst reply
i said i am earning through google ads

Yes, I saw that. But if offline can bring you traffic
wouldn't that increase your AdSense revenue?

webgaya.

Also consider leveraging the value of the visitor.
Why just rely on small per click earnings from google ads?
Look at affiliate programs also, on products within your niche.
Adsense click value - guess at 20c earn
Affiliate earn on a product sale - potentailly $1-10 depending on the final basket of goods bought.
You should be able to earn some decent money even on current visitor numbers, plus the opportunity to =create new pages which adds to search engine indexing = more vistors.

Remember, rafic volume is only one aspect. Return per visitor and conversions are another.
By finding merchants with good converting sites and if you can geta  20% clickthrough (which I get on my shopping site) then you can do OK.

So your solution may not be marketing at all, but business strategy.

As Matte has just said, multiple revenue streams are the best way forward for you

So you can have one PPC company (eg AdSense)
You can promote various affiliate products
There is also cost per action (usually pay per lead) - I can imagine health insurance leads are bought at a fair premium

Places to start looking for affiliates:

Amazon  - just as easy to integrate as AdSense, and has more flexibility if you find specific products you want to sell (due to Amazon's ToS you may want to get an number of affiliate IDs for different counties and display the right one using IP geo-targetting).

ClickBank - affiliate powered selling of ebooks and software, just sign up to get an account and form the special 'hop' links. Don't know what you're like with databases and programming but I've taken it as far as automatically displaying contextual adverts for clickbank products on my article sites.

Commission Junction - Never used them, but may be worth a try

too many people lose sight of the fact that a website is a toool for business (well business ones )
So the golden rules are

1. think business, not just website,
2. think income sources and revenue streams, not just appearance
3. Think conversions, not just traffic

damn thats good, might do a blog post about that

Hi!
Thanks for all these replies..
i know about affiliate program but thought to use it at a later stage because there are few visitors.
I main intention was to make it informational website so that search engines and people can easily refer to. So that was what i was trying before

but i will try to make more pages and add some useful cheap products.

so, i guess there is no rule for marketing.. we have to wait a lot... may be a year to get good amount of visitors

Maria

Maria,

How man sites do you have?
How many visitors do you get per site, per day?

hi
i have around 7 websites
2-3 have been a year old and have now got PR 5 but visitors 200-300 a day

some are freshly made and still have PR 0. Out of this one has started getting 700 visitors a day in just 2 months

so i was worried about the previous sites which are not getting traffic and was looking for some good way to get traffic for new sites

Correct me if I am wrong here troops, but Maria does seem to be equating PR with TRAFFIC. We all no the folley in that

MARIA; Are you actually targeting and monitoring targeted Keywords/Phrasings? Or are you simply adding content and building reciprocals?

You surely do not have to wait a year. If that were the case many more sites would fail then presently so, and SPAMMER MFA black hats would be a lot poorer than they are. Lol

Basics of search marketing; http://www.reliable-seo.com/knowledge-b … wdown.html

Affiliates; More and more having a MFA site and Affiliate crap everywhere is a sure way out of the SERPs. Those whom are heavily affiliate folks can attest to problems getting ranked (especially in Yahoo). Addng a bunch of AFF stuff (Amazon et al) may actually make things worse for you.

I have one term 4 ya = Link Bait

Learn about that … it would be a smarter organic methodology.

In the end you really need to start targeting and monitoring search terms to get a better sense of the sites over-all health. Measuring the SHEER MASS of traffic via a log file analyzer (AW Stats) will not be the best of indicators.

BUID A QUALITY SITE; If you are focused on being a MFA (Made For Adsense) you probably won’t do well. This puts you up against the REAL PROs which are the SPAMMERs of the internet. They build the sites…make their money until they get caught manipulating the SEs and start all over again. THAT”S HOW to build an MFA if you ONLY into the $$.

My 2c --- though I am anti-MFA myself.

maria99 wrote:

hi
i have around 7 websites
2-3 have been a year old and have now got PR 5 but visitors 200-300 a day

some are freshly made and still have PR 0. Out of this one has started getting 700 visitors a day in just 2 months

so i was worried about the previous sites which are not getting traffic and was looking for some good way to get traffic for new sites

7 sites * 300 visitors = 2100 visitors per day

assume 10% CTR

~200 clicks per day

$0.10 to $0.30 per click = $20 to $60 per day

Areas to target:

1 - More sites
2 - Higher CPC
3 - Increase CTR to 20%
4 - use affilites

1 - we covered this earlier
2 - choose keywords that have a higher bid price, but with the same number of searches/competion
3 - increase CTR by making a 'sticky' site - ie a site where people come and stay. If you are just a content site then people will soon get bored of reading content
4 - for people who are reading the content give them some in-line affiliate ads (for example - [http://directory.articledocs.com/show-article.php?title=dating-new-york&article=4347])

thegyspsy wrote:

If you are focused on being a MFA (Made For Adsense) you probably won’t do well. This puts you up against the REAL PROs which are the SPAMMERs of the internet. They build the sites…make their money until they get caught manipulating the SEs and start all over again. THAT”S HOW to build an MFA if you ONLY into the $$.

My 2c --- though I am anti-MFA myself.

well you think but i don't think that MFA is a spam nor i have read anywhere. what'r wron in it? there is nothing wrong.  I don't know how can you say that. ANyways i am not interested to talk in all that because i don't care if someone thinks so.

You have made a good point that is to target keywords.. i am definetly doing so but i am not able to get the right track. For eg - take a word QWE
How many articles i can make based on this word only and how many links exchanges i can do based on this keyword.. this way it would take lot of time in selecting keywords and targeting them one by one.

yes Northie, i make $60 a day which i think is very very less.
MY CTR is very low. I don't know how to increase it. I will try to put ads in between and try to search for some attractive tools which can bring visitor again and again
thanx for some good suggestions

Normally, i would like to know how much an average ppl make through adsense /per day
So that i can keep my target to that and how many websites they use to make such revenue
last ques - Si it better to focus on 3-4 websites to make revenue or to keep on incrasing the websites to make a revenue

Maria

well you think but i don't think that MFA is a spam nor i have read anywhere. what'r wron in it? there is nothing wrong.  I don't know how can you say that.

Please don’t be offended. I am not on about you I would imiagine. It is the purposefully directed Web Spammers that put little to no effort into the content of the site. It’s all about spamming the engines and making their $$$. Ok? I assume that is not U?

You have made a good point that is to target keywords.. i am definetly doing so but i am not able to get the right track. For eg - take a word QWE

Hmm.. Ok I don’t know the market or niche but some keyword research may be in order. Establishing the best money terms (ROI in mind) is a biggie.
Also try this post; http://forums.site-reference.com/topic/ … -together/

Seems s few nuggets may be had there.

How many articles i can make based on this word only

When you say Articles, is that content for the site? Or articles for distribution in conjunction with Link Profile development?
I am not sure of the context?

and how many links exchanges i can do based on this keyword.. this way it would take lot of time in selecting keywords and targeting them one by one

You want to have a nice mix of One Way Back Links and Reciprocal Back links. Heavier on the OWBL side.

Link Profile stuff;
http://forums.site-reference.com/viewtopic.php?id=3228
http://forums.site-reference.com/viewtopic.php?id=3348
http://forums.site-reference.com/viewtopic.php?id=3448

Let me know how that works out...