Hey good buddy, you fixed it? It’s still all over the place in FF. Compare the home page code against the articles page, which does render correctly.

You're not understanding, mate. I am talking ONLY about the example web PAGE (single, one only) that I mentioned earlier in the thread (http://www.sample.online-plus.biz).
(I'm sure you're going to reply now and say that you are referring to the site in my Signature, aren't you??)

That's not the site we're talking about. I haven't up until now, bothered about the fact that FP sites render badly in NOzilla, but because it is becoming more popular and because there has just been an update made available and because Google are advertising it in their Sitemap page, I thought it might be time to try to solve these problems.

Yeah,  I know that the website that you thought I was referring to (in my Signature) renders badly, as  do many others of mine, but the one in question, where I have said I have "found a fix" for the problem, is the page I give the URL for above (and earlier in the thread).

Thanks,
Wiz

griffinsbridge wrote:

(Unrelated to this issue - how much is Dreamweaver or a similar WYSIWYG html editor??)

google: torrent box

when you find the site, search: dreamweaver

Youll find its free!!!!

I found it. Downloaded MX2004 and got a 24Kb unknown file type that Windows doesn't recognise. It says the download is 134Mb. What, who, when, where...??? Huh??

Thanks very much,

Wiz:D

You are correct mate; I was looking at the site in your signature. This probably wont be popular, but I looked at the correct site and it’s a train wreck in FF 1.5.0.3 at 1024 by 768 resolution, too bad we don’t have the capability to post screen captures.

That 24KB file you downloaded is just the torrent - you still haven't downloaded DreamWeaver

besides, you have to buy DreamWeaver - its not free

dont pirate software - thats the same as stealing

Its better for you to go back to bashing Mozilla because your front page site looks like crap than go stealing software

and perhaps I missed it, but I still haven't seen you provide an example where Mozilla doesn't render your page correctly

waveshoppe wrote:

You are correct mate; I was looking at the site in your signature. This probably wont be popular, but I looked at the correct site and it’s a train wreck in FF 1.5.0.3 at 1024 by 768 resolution, too bad we don’t have the capability to post screen captures.

That's just the top table out of alignment - fixed!!

Thanks,
Wiz:D

Mutilated1 wrote:

That 24KB file you downloaded is just the torrent - you still haven't downloaded DreamWeaver

besides, you have to buy DreamWeaver - its not free

dont pirate software - thats the same as stealing

Its better for you to go back to bashing Mozilla because your front page site looks like crap than go stealing software

and perhaps I missed it, but I still haven't seen you provide an example where Mozilla doesn't render your page correctly

I didn't realise I was getting advise foran illegal site.... Crap, if i knew that this torrent thing was pirate stuff, I wouldn't have even bothered. Thanks for the heads up. I ALWAYS PAY FOR MY PROGRAMS!!

The example is the URL http://www.sample.online-plus.biz. The samller tables (on left and right have borders of 1 pixel in IE, but they don't show up in Mozilla...

Wiz

The problem is all those border="0" you have in every table just like I told you the first time

If you change them to border="1" or border="2" your border will show up.

Mutilated1 wrote:

The problem is all those border="0" you have in every table just like I told you the first time

If you change them to border="1" or border="2" your border will show up.

You're not understanding. Maybe FP code is that much differnent from others, I don't know.

There are TWO types of borders one for the table and one for the Cell. At the moment, I have a '1' value for the cell border and '0' for the table border. If I put '1' in the table border, I'll end up with a '2' pixel thick border in IE. I don't want two pixels, I want one.

Also, I just changed the cell border from '1' to '0' and made the table border '1' (as you suggest) and guess what, Nozilla does show the border in that instance either. In fact, if I make the border '1' in cell and table, in IE it shows as a 2 pixel border. In Nozilla, it shows up as... gues what, F... all. No borders at all. Try it yourself using my code and changing the border values as you say. Don't use another editor as that might misrepresent any inherent FP problem. Just use my code on a blank web page, using MS Word or something.

There is an inherent problem with NOzilla (and netscape) rendering borders for FP built sites. Yet IE reads and shows them perfectly. This is what I wanted to know, first of all why, and secondly, how it might be overcome, maybe with some code, or some special way of going about the borders.

As I said, I've managed to make a 1 pixel border show by using cell spacing.

Thank for all the help and suggestions.

Wiz

uh there are no "borders for the cell" you've just go tables nested in tables, and each table has a border="0"

and there is no inherrent problem with Mozilla, in this case there is a problem with Front Page

Try it yourself using my code and changing the border values as you say. Don't use another editor as that might misrepresent any inherent FP problem. Just use my code on a blank web page, using MS Word or something.

thats exactly what I did, and guess what ?  when its border="1" instead of border="0" the border shows up !  Imagine that

Mutilated1 wrote:

uh there are no "borders for the cell" you've just go tables nested in tables, and each table has a border="0"

and there is no inherrent problem with Mozilla, in this case there is a problem with Front Page

Try it yourself using my code and changing the border values as you say. Don't use another editor as that might misrepresent any inherent FP problem. Just use my code on a blank web page, using MS Word or something.

thats exactly what I did, and guess what ?  when its border="1" instead of border="0" the border shows up !  Imagine that

Sorry it took a while to get back, but I've been asleep and then out all day, mate.

I see what you're getting at, but still, I have to ask, WHY is there a border showing in my IE browser (on the outside, left and right tables) and NOT in NOzilla?

I look at the FP cell styles and there is clearly a border shown for the each table - I attached a screen shot of same. That border is clearly visible in IE 9Screen shot attached, YET it's not showing in NOzilla.





Sorry,the pic quality is shocking as the forum resized them after I had already resized - But the gist is there.

Thanks,
Wiz