Hi there.

I'm wondering what sort of money can be made from Adsense and what you have to do to make it.

I expect you'd need a couple of hundred pages and several thousand page views per day with the right keywords, to get the required PPCs to make a quid.

Regards,
Laurie.

I make 80-100 per month from having it on 4 pages, with most revenue coming from 2 pages.
I am also experimenting with Kontera (textually based advertising). I run this on my blog (plus adsense) as a side by side. I think it will earn better in the long run.

Let's just say big money can be made from Adsense.  There was a period of about 4-5 months where I joined the 'Fedex' club (that is certainly not the case now).  When I was making that much money from Adsense I had a network of over 300 websites.  The problem with that was that it was not entirely 'white-hat'.  As I pointed out in the article "Is Advertising Evil?", the point at which I was making the most money was the same point that I felt the worst about what I was doing.

I make considerably less these days and have actually abandoned Adsense in favor of YPN (except on these forums) as YPN pays out about 10x in the revenue per click that I saw from Adsense. I keep Adsense on these forums for the CPM ads (forums are notoriously difficult to monetize).  Putting Adsense on the forums has been nice - I'll make a nice little extra income that might pay for a dinner or two.

Thanks for recomending the article SiteReference.

I didn't read it when it was new because it wasn't scratching me where I was itching at the time. However, now I have a scheme in mind, as you may have guessed.

The keyword I have in mind has a very low search rate according to Overture so I would need to get many links and gain trafic from other sites in the field.

The top rating sites have many backlinks (400 or so) but are not well optimized for any keywords. They've put in their keywords with a shotgun from 100 paces hoping to hit anything that moves. Most have made the most common codeing error. Travelagent can tell you what that is. It's mandatory, you know.

Half way down page one the SEO steadies down to something I think I can compete with.

Could you give me a rough idea of how many clicks I might need on a site in order to get the PPCs to buy a tank of petrol for the car? A ball park figure I'm talking about. Perhaps the potential of my idea is so small that I should forget it.

Regards,
Laurie.

It all depends on the value of the click.  I've seen click values as high as $1.00 on average and as low as $0.05.

If you were to press me for a number, to get to the $100/month mark (needed to get paid) I would bet on at least 300 clicks/month (10 clicks per day - which is very doable).  That, of course, assumes a $0.30/click rate.

OK.

So if I acheive a click through rate of 10%, I'll need 100 page visits per day or 3000 per month. Is 10% realistic?

Regards,
Laurie.

Righto! I'm nearly ready to roll.

If you'd care to have a look at Sapphire Coast Holidays you'll be able to see the beginnings of my new venture.

I'd appreciate some feed back on:

1)  Page design, colours, feel, etc. I'm aware that the background image in the header isn't suitable but it will have to do for now.

2)  Keyword optimization. Much of the text and images in the middle part is simply cut and pasted from somewhere else to get me started, but you'll get my drift.

3)  Is the margin on the right for the Google adds OK?

4)  By the second page of results for "Saphire Coast" and other related keywords, the competition has fallen off, so I hope to get up there. The first half a dozen results are high on PR, 5/10, but not well optimized for their keywords and have numerous code errors including the most common.

They seem to be using to many different keywords per page and not frequently enough. Perhaps someone would confirm this for me.

The top sites have 300 pages and 400 backlinks. I can't see myself getting more than 100 backlinks and some would not be very high value. What hope have I of competing sucessfully with the top sites using keyword optimization as my main strategy?

Put another way: How much weight does PR carry? Any estimates?

5)  I'm counting on getting numerous links from my competition on the basis of providing useful, relevent content to compliment their site. The competion is not for their business but rather for their spot in the rankings. How do these things generally work out in the rough and tumble.

The site will be predominantly a quality, tourist oriented landscape photography display with lots of links to accomodation etc. I should be welcomed.

6)  I've a lot of work still to do on the top nav bar. The links will be to the main turist towns along our coast. The links in the green box will be to 20 or more national parks and the like. Each set of links will lead to thumbnail pages for the quality images. And this is still only the first page!

7)  I've made this as an extention of my main site which is a wilderness landscape photography site. I think it will all be relevent. Sound OK?

With thanks,
Laurie.

7)  I've made this as an extention of my main site which is a wilderness landscape photography site. I think it will all be relevent. Sound OK?

Yes I think it's ideal.

I'll look forward to some images of some of my old rockfishing haunts...

laurie_m wrote:

OK.

So if I acheive a click through rate of 10%, I'll need 100 page visits per day or 3000 per month. Is 10% realistic?

Regards,
Laurie.

Not really to start.  I would aim for a 4-5% CTR, but don't be discouraged if you find out you are only getting a 1-2% CTR.

I always make the $100 mark and have been paid every month for the past 5 months. This was after optimizing my ads. When I placed them above the fold and put 2 or 3 per page the clicks tripled.I also experimented with color and border colors. I find that the background the same color as my page with a black border working pretty good, but I've got other colors on other pages.  It's pretty easy money I think, but SR has me thinking about YPN now. 10x? I'll be laughing all the way to the bank every month.

Seriously SR, I made $172 last month. Can I really do ten times that? Or even double? I trust you, so say the word and I'll switch today.

hi Laurie,
last year we cleared a bit over $7,000 using adsense ads, high mark was $900 in a month,
I usally offer free templates and send out newsletters with a ad on the sample page.  This helps, I also try and keep a ad above the fold, that blends into my site.
Having traffic is important of course, we pulled a little over 300,000 unique last year.

Also keep it honest as well, pay attention to their terms when using them.

D.

Dion, does google allow ads on newsletters now? They told me no to newsletter ads. Maybe the terms changed?

No, Google does not work in newsletters, but you can setup a system similar to the SR system of putting a teaser in a newsletter and having the ad on the article page.

About YPN, I make 10x the amount of money with YPN that I do with Google.  So for me it works well, but I have heard wildly varying stories of success with YPN. Some people hate it while others like me love it.  Others find that they make about the same amount of money.

You have to keep in mind that with YPN you are going to get lower ad relevancy but generally more money per click (generally).  You can work with the account to help the relevancy, though.

I think it would be good to experiment with a variety of contextual products.  I've tried Kontera, Chitika, YPN, and Adsense and am pretty comfortable where I am right now, but will always keep tinkering.

With our two new travel sites, one six months old and the other three months, it's working out at US $30 per 1000 impressions.

The click through rate for ads is consistent at 7.5% - except weekends when it goes to 10% (people have more time to read and act perhaps?).

Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday we get the highest number of visitors.

Saturday is always the lowest by far.

Mondays are consistently the poorest for the amount each click pays - why that is I don't know, perhaps there's a rational explanation about when people set budgets. But that is noticeable and consistent.

Roger

Ditto to the Admin, not in newsletters, but I put it on the webpage that the free download is on.
When I send a NL, I send a link to that page.  Remember, don't ask to have them click it either.

D.

laurie_m wrote:

Hi there.

I'm wondering what sort of money can be made from Adsense and what you have to do to make it.

I expect you'd need a couple of hundred pages and several thousand page views per day with the right keywords, to get the required PPCs to make a quid.

Regards,
Laurie.

I think Google is good if you have more traffic... I am getting an AVg of 100 clicks per month...
Even Yahoo (good but the keywords are not working for me) for this reason - matching clicks are only my visitors' target.
Thanks to Google!

Hey, thanks to you all. Great info.

YPN seems to be in beta and only available in USA. Correct?

I'll stick with Google till I get the hang of all this. Then I'll be in a better position to judge what's best.

I did some figures based on $0.30 per click and 1% click through rate. Will need 30,000 page views per month. This is unachievable on my origional idea because of the low search rate for my keywords. It's a small tourist area. Will add some photography tips from artical distributers.

Regards,
Laurie.

I just joined Adsense a couple of days ago once I realized that I could use links instead of the the ads people typically use on websites.  I'm all for generating some extra revenue but didn't want it to take away from the overall site, especially on my mythology one.   So far I'm averaging about $3 or so a day, give or take.  I did have the links on the bottom left at first, and today decided to bump them up to the top.  If I can take in about $100 a month this route I'll be pretty happy.   The other sites I'll roll in as I switch their hosting and keep working through them.  It's amazing how much time it takes to manage 3 sites....let alone more

I'm having trouble joining Yahoo Pay program. I just get a page that says it's in beta and you need 20 million hits per month or some outragous number (I'm sure at the moment I saw 20 million). If this is right, forget it. If it's not, I'd really appreciate someone giving ,e the [roper URL For Yahoo publisher's ads.

Based on one site alone I am up to $140 per month in adsense payments. Adsense has been a dream for me.  A few months ago I noticed I was getting allot of hits but not allot of click throughs to other pages. These were people clicking through to my website from a serch engine and I wasn't exactly what they were looking for so they just left the site. With adsense I can still produce revenue with those individuals by providing another place to go. I have taken unprofitable traffic and produced an made them profitable. Many sites get allot of traffic, but many of them have a low percentage of sales. Adsense is definatly a smart choice to utilize that extra traffic going to waste.